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#1 crossarm OFFLINE  

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Posted March 20, 2016 - 04:18 PM

Just bought a gard'n mast'r model js ser#22106. Briggs 23r6d type n203984  ser#254627. Hand clutch on rh side and shifter comes up on lh side of steering column. It's in very good cond, I just need to go through carb to have it running. 1'st question is year model? Next I read about the trans and some seem to be dodge, plymouth, chrysler, or desoto. One last question is mine has no off/on switch. Would it have had one originally? Thanks for all help and info. I will post when I get it running.

 

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Posted March 20, 2016 - 04:58 PM

I'm restoring a Gard'n Mast'r J'S model, Tractor serial number 22131, and Briggs model 23R6D, serial number 303684. My engine dates to April '56. Your engine dates from March '55. I've stone a bunch of research on these tractors, and I can help you out searching for parts. My transmission and rear are from a mid to late 30's Dodge or pPlymouth.The rear brake drums are 10" on mine.

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Posted March 20, 2016 - 08:26 PM

That's a great start, thank you. I'm guessing trans and rear on mine are same as yours. Very busy this week but gonna try my best to get carb cleaned up. Po said it ran a couple of years ago.


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Posted March 20, 2016 - 08:36 PM

You're welcome. Let us know how you make out when you get a chance to work on it.

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Posted March 20, 2016 - 09:16 PM

Just bought a gard'n mast'r model js ser#22106. Briggs 23r6d type n203984  ser#254627. Hand clutch on rh side and shifter comes up on lh side of steering column. It's in very good cond, I just need to go through carb to have it running. 1'st question is year model? Next I read about the trans and some seem to be dodge, plymouth, chrysler, or desoto. One last question is mine has no off/on switch. Would it have had one originally? Thanks for all help and info. I will post when I get it running.
 
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on the Briggs 23's there should be a button on the front of the points box. This is the kill switch. It grounds out the spark, that is the only "on/off" I know of on the garden masters.
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Posted March 20, 2016 - 09:24 PM

Oh yeah I forgot about that, one of my other tractors has that.  I think it's the allis b1



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Posted March 24, 2016 - 10:09 PM

I have another question. (don't know what i'd do without you guys help). Whats the deal with the oil fill cap? It's spring hooked and does'nt appear to come off. Does'nt that make it a pain to refill? Thanks again.



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Posted March 24, 2016 - 10:52 PM

If you lift it and push it up and back, it will stand up and hold itself. Easier to do than explain.



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Posted March 25, 2016 - 08:08 PM

Thanks Doug I see what you mean. Guess I won't lose the cap. Ha ha. Big news cleaned the carb up today and got her running. Drove out the driveway (150 ft) and back. No smoke, no bad noises and no leaks. Woo hoo! The chain is pretty loose.I'm guessing it's the original chain. It need's a half link out of it but might as well put a new one on. Has anyone replaced and where did you get it and how long. My first shot is going to be the motorcycle shop and after that the farm parts places. Was so proud to hear that engine come to life and watch the clutch work. Now I'll have to get the 5 years of barn crud washed off.


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Posted March 25, 2016 - 08:26 PM

Great to hear that you got it going! I took mine for a short ride before I tore it apart to restore it. I'll get back to the project now that the weather is getting better. Which clutch do you have? I've seen these tractors with a Dodge manufacturing Rolling Grip #45 clutch, and also with a Carlyle Johnson clutch.

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Posted March 25, 2016 - 09:16 PM

How do I tell the difference? I can take a pic tomorrow. Guessing the trans and rear are the same as yours since they are about the same time built, do you think?



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Posted March 25, 2016 - 10:20 PM

The trans and rear will be the same. Here is a pic of the two different clutches that I have seen on these tractors.

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Posted March 26, 2016 - 08:47 PM

Thinking mine is the one on the right as it has a bolt through it like that. Which one is it? Also classic did you replace chain? What size and where did you get it? Thanks



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Posted June 10, 2016 - 05:28 PM

My model JB has a on/off switch on the dash panel but it could have been added by a PO. Most Chrysler corp. cars used the same transmission and rear  ends during that era. My rear wheels are smaller size, 23 x 8.50 x12 and the brakes are the old chrysler driveshaft type.






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