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#1 1964Deere OFFLINE  

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Posted March 16, 2016 - 06:59 PM

I am looking for a Diesel engine for a custom GT build. I found a local guy who told me he had a 2 cyl perkins. He didn't know hardly anything about it but sent me the serial number & type attached you will find the serial number tag. If you can't read it its a Perkins type HB70582J. After looking online I can't find any specs on this motor I am wanting to know hp & year etc. also are there any watch outs on this motor.

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He said it came off a refer semi trailer. Had it running last fall and was going to put it in a cub cadet but didn't want to deal with the project. Says he tried starting it the other day and it just cranked, he thought bad fuel. He is asking $500 comes with electric fan & radiator.


Let me know what you all think. I am a newbie to diesels, but want to get into one for my project

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Posted March 16, 2016 - 07:08 PM

You can go HERE for a parts manual.  Appears to be the same engine as in the Rigmaster semi APU, or a Perkins 402C.  They are 14hp at 3,600rpm.  I feel he is high being it won't run.  I can't tell you a year but likely 80's.  I have a couple of them, one I put into my Bush Hog HD-12.  Good little engines, and way more pulling power than a gas 14hp.


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Posted March 16, 2016 - 07:24 PM

Do they have the ability to
Put a turbo on it and give it a little more fuel to hot that 20hp range?

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Posted March 16, 2016 - 07:33 PM

Do they have the ability to
Put a turbo on it and give it a little more fuel to hot that 20hp range?

I have no idea, but pumping it up 40% would be a stretch I'd think unless pumping in a lot of boost, that may shorten the engine's life.  Most our old farm tractors boost HP about 25 to 30% when you add a turbo.


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Posted March 16, 2016 - 07:45 PM

I'm looking at pulling a 2 bottom 10" plow as my ultimate goal. Think it would do it? Or wait for something bigge r

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Posted March 16, 2016 - 08:08 PM

No, this engine won't do that.  I'd advise to wait for a bigger normally aspirated diesel.  



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Posted March 16, 2016 - 09:50 PM

I think it depends on what you put it in. Something with a 2 speed transaxle and very heavy and you could probably pull it. Single speed axle, I dont think so.



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Posted March 16, 2016 - 10:51 PM

I'm thinking a vickers hydro

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Posted March 16, 2016 - 11:54 PM

I have a kabota z482 that I'm planning on putting in a 716 Allis. Its from a APU off a semi. Haven't done much research on putting a turbo on it but they are available for them.
I have access to probably 5-6 more of them and 3-4 yanmar 2 cyls. They're out there if you know where to look. A lot of times APUs have electrical issues with other components and the engines still work just fine, just like the ones I mentioned.
Not sure where your from but maybe put an ad on CL or something looking nonfuctioning APUs and see what happens. Around here dealers will give you $500 towards a new one. Kind of a kick in the shorts considering new ones go for $10,000 to $13,000 depending on which brand you go with.
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Posted March 17, 2016 - 12:18 AM

I would agree with everyone. Even with a two speed hydro I still think that the little 2 cylinder wont have enough. Your better off looking for a 3 cylinder if possible. I sold a yanmar about a month ago for 550$ that ran fine and went along with a turbo. It was a thermo king/yanmar.



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Posted March 17, 2016 - 07:31 AM

You will need traction as well as HP to pull a 2 furrow plow. That means weight, so your axle/drivetrain has got to be up to the task of dealing with all that force. 



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Posted March 17, 2016 - 12:28 PM

I have one of those and they are sweet running engines see this thread http://gardentractor...reebie-perkins/ . I got the whole APU unit for free. The engine was stuck up after freeing it up she fired right up and ran like a champ. They are rated at 13.7 hp and the local Perkins dealer said a turbo would ad 25% which would be just shy of 17hp. I just sold a two cylinder Kubota I bought for $50 and after getting it running I sold it for $250 so I think $500 is high.The two cylinder Kubota's are rated at 13.2 hp.



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Posted March 18, 2016 - 07:23 AM

Where are you guys finding motors for these prices? Anywhere I look they are 500-1500 and most of the time in the $1000 range?

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Posted March 20, 2016 - 11:39 PM

Where are you guys finding motors for these prices? Anywhere I look they are 500-1500 and most of the time in the $1000 range?

I install new APUs and work for a trucking company. A few years ago there was an auction in Texas where a trucking company went out of business and on the auction I could've filled 2 semi trailers with used APUs. They were selling them in lots of 20 or so and were bringing $500-800 a lot. Didn't have any trailers in the area at the time so didn't bid on them.
The best thing is to do is talk to some trucking companies and drivers. They'll more than likely have one laying around and with scrap being low now would be a good time to buy.
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Posted March 21, 2016 - 10:26 AM

The best thing is to do is talk to some trucking companies and drivers. 

 

That's exactly how I got mine for $100.00 each. I'll bet there is a bunch of them out there if a guy would just find them before they are sold for scrap iron. 


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