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#1 HALFSCALE ONLINE  

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Posted March 03, 2016 - 03:59 PM

Complete 3 point assembly, includes spool valve and lift cylinder
Worked when tractor was parked, but its been about 7 years, may need O rings in spool valve and cylinder.
200.00

Complete 2000 rpm pto, including all pulleys
200.00

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Posted March 03, 2016 - 10:05 PM

Thats a great deal on both.


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Posted March 15, 2016 - 01:50 PM

I'll take the PTO if it will work on an 1855.



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Posted March 15, 2016 - 05:01 PM

The PTO on the 50 series is different than the 55 series.
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Posted March 15, 2016 - 09:49 PM

Darn.  Thanks for the info.


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Posted March 30, 2016 - 07:30 PM

I could sure use a tiller to go with that hitch.  We have a Snapper 1650 which runs and mows great, but we haven't been able to find a tiller. Does anybody have any ideas on where/how to look?  Are any other makes compatible with the cat 0 hitch and 2000 rpm PTO?



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Posted April 01, 2016 - 02:46 AM

I sold the tiller to NUTNDUN, they are great tillers, spin fast and make a great seed 4ft wide, then went right over with plastic layer. I don't know how the Deere or cubs work but highly recommend the Massey/ Snappers.


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Posted April 18, 2016 - 10:54 PM

The PTO on the 50 series is different than the 55 series.

 

I wonder if I could make it fit on my 1855......what would be different?  I'm guessing just the length of the shaft, but I really have no idea.



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Posted April 18, 2016 - 11:05 PM

On the 55 series the PTO shaft connects to the engine stub shaft and the 50 series, the driveshaft connects to the engine. I can't see a way of swapping and making it work.

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Posted April 19, 2016 - 10:10 AM

Remove the Pulley from the engine end of the shaft and mod shaft to the correct length and connect to engine with a spline coupler.

I believe that will do it.


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Posted April 25, 2016 - 11:57 AM

Remove the Pulley from the engine end of the shaft and mod shaft to the correct length and connect to engine with a spline coupler.

I believe that will do it.

 

That's all it takes?  I might be able to do that.

 

So basically the stub shaft on the engine or non-PTO models was shorter or longer?  The PTO connected directly to that splined stub shaft coming off the engine?



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Posted April 25, 2016 - 05:11 PM

That's all it takes?  I might be able to do that.

 

So basically the stub shaft on the engine or non-PTO models was shorter or longer?  The PTO connected directly to that splined stub shaft coming off the engine?

The engine shaft on the 55 series is OK. the 55 series engine shaft connects directly to the the pto shaft with a splined coupler.  The engine shaft also has a dual V belt pulley the drops power down to the hydro drive shaft.

 

The 50 series does it exactly the opposite.  Engine shaft connect to the Hydro driveshaft and a dual V belt pulley put power up to the PTO shaft.

 

The one Halfscale has is for the 50 series.  By removing the pulley and bearing bracket from the long shaft and shortening it to the proper length of a 55 series it will work.  You will not be using the short lower shaft.  All the other parts are bolt and play.  The bearing for the rear of the long shaft is no longer available So I use a 1" with allen screws and put a bushing in the bearing to bush it down to 3/4".

Hope this explains it for you. 


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Posted April 25, 2016 - 10:14 PM

I had a chance to grab a couple of pics of a 55 series without a PTO.  

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You can see the lower shaft, belt driven, 1 to 1 ratio, and the end of the engine shaft that would drive the rear PTO if you had one.  

The Onan turn at 3600 RPM which is in the specs of the Sundstrad drive.  The actual spec for Sundstard Quotes 4000 RPM.

 

This rear PTO is spec'ed @ 2000 RPMs per Cat 0 Hitch specs.  This reduction done at the rear of the tractor


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Posted April 25, 2016 - 11:05 PM

Thank you so much for going to all that trouble to explain this to me!  I really, really appreciate it.  I've learned so much from this site in a short amount of time.  I plan on using the 3 point hitch for my Brinly plow, a 5 foot landscape rake, and a 4 tooth ripper I'm going to be building.  I know the PTO is a 2000 RPM unit, so what attachments would I be able to use with this PTO since most are 540?  Thanks again!



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Posted April 26, 2016 - 10:17 AM

Anything with the 20 tooth 1" splined PTO shaft and cat 0 3 point.


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