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#1 propane1 ONLINE  

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Posted February 24, 2016 - 08:59 AM

Some of you may remember my sons rambler I showed pictures of last spring sometime, well the 343 engine is mostly together and son is hoping to put it and the transmission in this weekend. Hopefully all goes well.

Noel

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Posted February 24, 2016 - 09:01 AM

Good luck with the install!


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Posted February 24, 2016 - 09:02 AM

:thumbs:     Gotta love the old stuff! ​  Rick


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Posted February 24, 2016 - 09:20 AM

When I rebuilt engines in the late 60s and early 70s, I was very concerned about "dry spots" for the initial turn over of the engine. They can do significant damage to wear surfaces. I learned to put a little STP oil treatment on the cam and crank bearings. I soaked in oil:  lifters, pistons with rings, push rods, the oil pump, and the timing chain and gears.

 

Once the engine was together, I would prime the oiling system by using a speed wrench on the oil pump shaft(with the distributor out). When it came time to start the engine, I primed the oil again, put the distributor in(static timed) and turned it over for a minute with out gas. Then give it gas and try it. Run it for a few minutes at fast idle and then adjust the timing. I'd run it for about 30 minutes and then shut it down and immediately drain the oil and change the filter. The oil would look like metal flake paint because of all the pieces that came out. The oils are much better now days but I still think that the quick breakin oil change greatly prolongs an engines' life.

 

Please check the rating on your engine stand. With all of the "Made in China" hardware fails lately I am suspicious of all Chinese products. I hope that it all goes well and you get to enjoy many years of driving it. Good Luck, Rick


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Posted February 24, 2016 - 09:33 AM

  A Rambler American w/ a built up 343 oughta be a real sleeper!!

                                             Mike


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Posted February 24, 2016 - 09:57 AM

Its gonna have woomba !
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Posted February 24, 2016 - 10:00 AM

Rick, we are doing exactly what you said in your paragraph. We soaked the lifters, oiled everything as we put it together. And I made this tool to turn the pump once we are ready. Had to paint it same colour as the engine. Hehe. When the engine was upside down, with the pan off, I put oil into the pick up and turned the pump by hand and got oil to come out into the part where the oil filter screws on.

Thanks for the info, Noel

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Posted February 24, 2016 - 01:14 PM

That is cool. Guy I went to highschool with is working on about the same year Rambler Classic.


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Posted February 24, 2016 - 01:26 PM

I seem to remember an AMC "rebel" with a 390 in it at the drag strip around 1969. It was painted red, white, and blue. I'm pretty sure it was factory production. As I'm thinking about it, I believe there was a weakness in the drivetrain that blew when they were raced. I suspect it was the rear end tearing out. I also think that someone used ladder bars to solve the problem. They weren't around for long. Please be carefull with yours. Good Luck, Rick
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Posted February 24, 2016 - 02:19 PM

  We used STP mixed half and half with the oil that was going into the engine. Don't recall ever having a problem. If the engine was going to be setting for a while before use I might consider white grease on the surfaces subject to high pressure. 

  That's going to make a real nice looking sleeper.

  Looking forward to more reports on your project. Thanks for the update. 


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Posted February 24, 2016 - 05:01 PM

Nice looking engine, glad to see you guys making progress on it. Good luck and keep us posted.


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Posted February 24, 2016 - 06:04 PM

I seem to remember an AMC "rebel" with a 390 in it at the drag strip around 1969. It was painted red, white, and blue. I'm pretty sure it was factory production. As I'm thinking about it, I believe there was a weakness in the drivetrain that blew when they were raced. I suspect it was the rear end tearing out. I also think that someone used ladder bars to solve the problem. They weren't around for long. Please be carefull with yours. Good Luck, Rick

That was the Hurst Scrambler at that time every year Hurst would take a car and option out all the best parts. I rember one year they did an Olds 442. When I went to college in Olathe, Ks back in 69, the two fastest cars in that town were a Hurst Scrambler and a 60 Ford Starliner with a 406 super stock engine.  they ran repeatedly and either would take the win.

In 74 I bought a new Matador, Penske Team was racing them at the time.


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Posted February 24, 2016 - 06:11 PM

Was trying to remember that name, Hurst Scambler. Was it not a American, instead of a Rebel. Or did they do different models.

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Posted February 24, 2016 - 06:18 PM

Was trying to remember that name, Hurst Scambler. Was it not a American, instead of a Rebel. Or did they do different models.

Noel

 Actually, in 69 they had the Rambler ScRambler, which was an American with the 390, 4 speed

 

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In 70, they basically did the same thing with a Rebel, calling it the Rambler Machine

 

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Posted February 24, 2016 - 06:19 PM

"Scrambler" was the American, "Machine" was the Rebel. Both done up in red,White, and Blue which means they weren't sleepers like this ones gonna be. Nice looking work :thumbs:  Keep us posted.


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