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Posted February 16, 2016 - 11:32 AM

This was on CL last night so I had to take a look. I'm thinking about throwing a P220 in it that I was going to install in a 316 project. This is a lot closer to being a runner. 

 

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Posted February 16, 2016 - 11:38 AM

Nice find.  What year is it?


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Posted February 16, 2016 - 12:45 PM

Nice find.  What year is it?

Just went and looked at the tag. Its a 1989 model.

 

It has a P218 engine, but it had thrown a rod. I will need to inspect it more to see if it can be fixed.



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Posted February 16, 2016 - 01:24 PM

Ooh, 50 deck. That would make a nice mowing machine.
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Posted February 16, 2016 - 02:50 PM

Ooh, 50 deck. That would make a nice mowing machine.

The deck has some rust out under the belt cover. I'll have to inspect that some more and see what's left. I have another 50" deck for my 322 if I need it.



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Posted February 16, 2016 - 09:35 PM

Got it pressure washed and snapped some pics of the crank journal where the rod failed.

 

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Posted February 17, 2016 - 01:08 AM

You'll have to get that inspected and measured to see if it is still ok, might get away with just a polish, but an engine machine shop guy will know better. If you change one rod you'll will have to change the other also to keep the engine in balance. The old style rods are no longer available.


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Posted February 17, 2016 - 06:28 AM

Looks pretty good once you cleaned it :thumbs:  


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Posted February 18, 2016 - 10:58 PM

Got the crank cleaned up a bit and it looks like we will be able to save it. We have a onan P248V that has a good new style rod and piston that we could use, but the P218 has the old style rod with the hole in it. So the question is, Which style rod is better? At this point I can go with either style.



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Posted February 18, 2016 - 11:23 PM

There is a weight difference in the rods, if you replace one you will have to replace the other.


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Posted February 18, 2016 - 11:35 PM

There is a weight difference in the rods, if you replace one you will have to replace the other.

I was just wondering if one is better than the other. I am planning on getting a used rod or rod/piston assy, if I can find one.



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Posted February 19, 2016 - 11:45 AM

I was just wondering if one is better than the other. I am planning on getting a used rod or rod/piston assy, if I can find one.

I would check with a fellow who goes by the handle boomers_influence, he is on a bunch of other forums. Very knowledgeable, he help me out with parts for my rebuild of my Onan P218G that had 3000 hours on it. The cylinders were egged, so it had to be bored, replaced the rods (with new style), pistons (0.020 over, plus rings), new bearings (because of metal impregnation), Cut the valve seats and ground the valves to spec, new seals and gaskets, split the intake and resealed that also. Runs like new.


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Posted February 20, 2016 - 01:01 PM

Started pulling the engine down yesterday. I need to make a puller setup to pull the timing gear on the crank still. Once that's done I can start cleaning and measuring to see what parts will be needed.

 

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Posted February 20, 2016 - 01:26 PM

Beside a puller (available from any local auto parts store) you will probably need some heat also, just on the gear not the shaft.


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Posted February 20, 2016 - 01:30 PM

Beside a puller (available from any local auto parts store) you will probably need some heat also, just on the gear not the shaft.

We have pullers, we just need to make the pulling ring and get the grade 8 bolts to screw into the gear.


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