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#1 AA Hayes OFFLINE  

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Posted February 15, 2016 - 05:56 PM

So I have contacted a fellow about purchasing and 1886 with a Johnson loader on it. I have asked the typical things about the tractor.
I am not familiar with the eaton 12, what should I look for with that?
Any suggestions on things to look at would be great.
On my list so far;
Bolster
Hydraulic lines
Engine compression
Oil consumption
Leaks
Wiring condition

Can anyone post some pictures of their 1886 for me, with wiring, exhaust, hydro and anything else that might be important to look for how it should sit on tractor in close to original condition. I believe this is the 1971 model? Not sure if it is 01 02 03 ect.

Thanks guys!

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Posted February 15, 2016 - 06:41 PM

I am kinda not convinced that is a 1886 do you have any more photos?


Edited by wilberj, February 15, 2016 - 07:49 PM.


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Posted February 15, 2016 - 06:57 PM

Rear wheels are from an earlier model. Perhaps a 1250?
You should check for a loose drive shaft connection. Usually on the hydro end.
And inspect the casting above the front axel for cracks or breaks.
And sometimes the frame rails will crack.
Joe

Edited by Rock farmer, February 15, 2016 - 06:58 PM.


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Posted February 15, 2016 - 07:06 PM

Rear wheels are from an earlier model. Perhaps a 1250?
You should check for a loose drive shaft connection. Usually on the hydro end.
And inspect the casting above the front axel for cracks or breaks.
And sometimes the frame rails will crack.
Joe

 

 

The 15'' rims were also offered on the 1886. 


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Posted February 15, 2016 - 07:49 PM

I do not have more photos yet. They will be coming soon.
If it turns out to truely be an 1886, can the power steering be fitted to that model? Also, any guys with FEL without power steering, how do you find it?

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Posted February 15, 2016 - 07:49 PM

I am kinda not convinced that is a 1886 do you have any more photos?


What makes you think it is not an 1886?

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Posted February 15, 2016 - 07:51 PM

Yes you can add power steering to a 1886.  I have a 1886 with FEL I do not run PS if you know how to use it without PS you don't need it. 


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Posted February 15, 2016 - 07:51 PM

What makes you think it is not an 1886?

 

The cut out in the frame looks odd. 



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Posted February 15, 2016 - 08:06 PM

The frame cut-outs are an interesting situation with the later 1886's and the 2086/2087 HT20's. As an example, I have two sets of frame rails from HT20's. One set has a more extreme cut-out than the other, almost as if Bolens said "Uh-Oh, we cut out more and too much of the frame rails than we should have when we fitted the Kohler twin". The second set with less cut-out is like the later HT23's.


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Posted February 15, 2016 - 08:15 PM

The frame cut-outs are an interesting situation with the later 1886's and the 2086/2087 HT20's. As an example, I have two sets of frame rails from HT20's. One set has a more extreme cut-out than the other, almost as if Bolens said "Uh-Oh, we cut out more and too much of the frame rails than we should have when we fitted the Kohler twin". The second set with less cut-out is like the later HT23's.

 

Ya in the HT20s they seemed to add more of a cut to the frame I don't know why they had to cut so much out.  



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Posted February 15, 2016 - 08:23 PM

Yes you can add power steering to a 1886.  I have a 1886 with FEL I do not run PS if you know how to use it without PS you don't need it.


I figured, if you aren't trying to dry turn without a load that you should be good to go.
What is the load rating on the Johnson loader?

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Posted February 15, 2016 - 08:33 PM

What about the green painted frame? From what I have seen all 1886 were painted the Bolens cream white.

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Posted February 15, 2016 - 08:33 PM

The frame cut-outs are an interesting situation with the later 1886's and the 2086/2087 HT20's.

 

 

Ya in the HT20s they seemed to add more of a cut to the frame I don't know why they had to cut so much out.  

 

I volunteer to do a 3 year case study on 1886 frame cut outs. I will need at least 5 of them. Contact me for the location of the nearest Fastenal you may ship your 1886 to.............. :D  :wave:


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Posted February 15, 2016 - 08:39 PM

:wave: If you are going to do a 3 year case study you will probably need an assistant so that it doesn't turn into a 5 year study - perhaps one of the Canadian members could help you reduce the work load of the study by having a few samples shipped to one of us?


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Posted February 15, 2016 - 08:43 PM

I figured, if you aren't trying to dry turn without a load that you should be good to go.
What is the load rating on the Johnson loader?

 

What about the green painted frame? From what I have seen all 1886 were painted the Bolens cream white.

 

 

The green frame is a repaint from the looks of it.

 

I think the load rating is around 500 pounds I think.  I have lifted 700 with my modal 24.

 

Yes if your empty you can turn the wheel not moving but loaded you should be moving when your turning. 







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