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#1 rustyoldjunk OFFLINE  

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Posted February 14, 2016 - 11:41 AM

I hauled this home the other evening with the Squire that I hauled home. It is in very rough,very weathered condition. I haven't even checked it out yet but it appears to be "garage art".

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Posted February 14, 2016 - 11:49 AM

Yup, I have one of those Briggs Model Y do I have it garage art.
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Posted February 14, 2016 - 12:00 PM

Neat ole engine - but whats the fun in garage art?  I say start soaking that puppy and maybe some day you can have the satisfaction of hearing it once again run. 

The rougher they are the sweeter the victory!  :wave:


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Posted February 14, 2016 - 12:09 PM

I will take a look at it when it warms up a little. The head is cracked completely open to the cylinder. I mainly picked it up to keep it from going to scrap. So it looks like I would need a head for it at the very least. I'm almost afraid to pull the head and look into the cylinder.


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Posted February 14, 2016 - 12:14 PM

Head does look real ugly.  Had to have been water inside that froze I'd think. 


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Posted February 14, 2016 - 12:33 PM

When I was a kid, dad brought home our first washing machine, it had that same motor. I don't remember the name of the washer, but it was a double tub with a wringer between them. It also had a flexible exhaust  that would hang out the window so we could use it in doors during the winter. That was the first engine I can remember and I could kick start it and play with it till I got caught. One year we were killing hogs and dad hooked the motor from the washing machine to the sausage grinder, man that thing would gobble up the meat. The only problem, it ran so fast that in a short while, the sausage grinder started smokin so it was back to the hand cranking. One time the motor needed some work so dad removed it and took it to Sears service department at 8th and Broadway in Louisville. Thanks for bringing back some memories.


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Posted February 14, 2016 - 01:50 PM

What's that foot lever? A starter?
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Posted February 14, 2016 - 02:15 PM

What's that foot lever? A starter?

Yes, that is a kick start so the engine can be tucked up under the washer tub and more out of the way.

 

 

 

And thank you too milkman for sharing your memory with us.  :thumbs:


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Posted February 14, 2016 - 02:43 PM

OK, that part below the strange carb in case is the starter pulled off later in last pix? If NOT, then what is that part?  As I just said, weird carb! That Briggs own or other brand?  Never have seen this old of engine I guess.  Just clean it up and paint pretty and put on a shelf. Can't be worth fixing.  That is ONE HUGE wire coming out from flywheel too, what gives? 

 

OK, eyes not working good. Looking back at pictures, getting focused now. Part I was asking on is JUST the Pivot for the starter shaft. Last picture is just diff angle on whole engine, was thinking it was something taken off. Never Mind!  Blast it, paint it as is, look at it!  Done! Carb questions need to be answered tho, heh!


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Posted February 14, 2016 - 04:46 PM

I love this early stuff, may have also been used on a reel mower too as those had kick start sometimes but more commonly washing machines.

The carbs sure are primitive! can you get a better pic of the carb? I have one on a model a that has a cork float inside, but this one looks to just be a suction carb with no float.


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Posted February 14, 2016 - 05:37 PM

Does that kick starter ratchet up and down? The short amount of teeth on the gear looKS like you wouldn't get but one turn out of the motor. I am just curious I have never seen one
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Posted February 14, 2016 - 05:48 PM

No float in the carb. and only very minor adjustment to throttle speed.   The big spring you see sticking out the side of the carb. works against the wind-vane of the governor.  The throttle shaft mounts sideways in the carb and if you look real close you can see the other end of the throttle shaft going into the air shroud where the flap [wind deflector] is.  The choke lever is kind of blocking the rod because of the angle of my pic.

The big wire is the plug wire. 

Here is a pic of one of mine.  Its somewhat cleaner so you might be able to see the detail better.

I think what GL is asking about are the loops cast into the block for the kick starter to pivot on. ???

 

 

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T.P.  The gear on the crankshaft has a one-way ratcheting mechanism in it.  You step down on the kick starter and it'll return on its own because of a spring that you can't see in my pic.  The starter will only roll it over the compression stroke one time per kick.  That is enough because they start easily when setup correctly.


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Posted February 14, 2016 - 07:08 PM

I love this early stuff, may have also been used on a reel mower too as those had kick start sometimes but more commonly washing machines.

The carbs sure are primitive! can you get a better pic of the carb? I have one on a model a that has a cork float inside, but this one looks to just be a suction carb with no float.

 

The model H was this engine with the same carb your A takes.


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Posted February 15, 2016 - 08:05 PM

I was curious just how bad it looked inside,so I pulled the head.

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Posted February 15, 2016 - 09:05 PM

LOOK how clean those bolt holes are...heh! One broken off I see, fun!  Well, be some scraping and brushing to even get to the orig surfaces there!  One valve open some, other is Rust Welded into the block.  Would not be afraid to use any size sand-paper or such on that, can't scratch much more, heh! Gonna clean it up best you can and soak it then? Is there even ANY oil in the crankcase?  Tear it down, blasting as it sets. THEN, can see what is there and what rust holes in the surfaces.  Wouldn't have to worry about getting sand in the bearings for sure. 


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