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Posted February 10, 2016 - 05:34 PM

I would be guessing at least 100psi. What is the brand and model of the engine.? My tea20 ferguson has a Standard engine. Some newer, like your ferguson, had a continental engine, I believe.

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Posted February 10, 2016 - 05:37 PM

I would be guessing at least 100psi. What is the brand and model of the engine.? My tea20 ferguson has a Standard engine. Some newer, like your ferguson, had a continental engine, I believe.

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It is a Continental yes.

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Posted February 10, 2016 - 06:11 PM

In the hundreds be good check others for reference low or not for that cylinder. But with 100+- good enough to fire.It's possible after market manifold plugged. But in the end if you have to get real accurate pressure reading get a manual cause hole slue of crap to go through to get readings on these.  


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Posted February 10, 2016 - 06:45 PM

Compression ratio on the TO35 was only 8:1

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Posted February 10, 2016 - 07:01 PM

After mathing it out, around 120psi at sea level.
Goes down as you increase elevation or get closer to a politition


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Posted February 10, 2016 - 09:17 PM

Is the miss at idle ? If you rev it up a little, does it go away ? Idle would be about 400 to 500 rpm. If you rev the engine up to 800 to 1000 rpms and check it , is it still missing. ?

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Posted February 10, 2016 - 09:53 PM

Is the miss at idle ? If you rev it up a little, does it go away ? Idle would be about 400 to 500 rpm. If you rev the engine up to 800 to 1000 rpms and check it , is it still missing. ?

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It misses at all rpms whether it's at idle or wide open. It almost has to be a fuel issue
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Posted February 11, 2016 - 03:07 AM

Prime the cylinder, that you think is missing, with gasoline, then try it and see if that changes anything.

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Posted February 11, 2016 - 08:13 AM

You need to pull a plug wire ,one at a time to see what hole is missing. Fuel issue should go away at rpm or get worse. Could be a bad wire, cracked plug, or bad cap or rotor, or even worse a worn distributor shaft?

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Posted February 11, 2016 - 09:50 AM

This my sound dumb but did we verify the firing order is correct.


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Posted February 11, 2016 - 11:01 AM

I find it hard to believe the casting could be plugged, but maybe. Maybe some thing got into the casting before installation, rag, cardboard, etc. In the first post, you mention the exhaust manifold and muffler, no mention of intake manifold. Are the intake and exhaust manifolds one piece?
If you believe a cylinder is not getting any fuel, you could run the engine for a minute or so, then remove the plug from the cylinder you think is missing and see if it's wet. If wet, it's getting fuel, if not wet, then maybe the manifold is the trouble. Just some thoughts,
Maybe one of the holes in the gasket, for the intake maniflod, was not cut out at the factory.
Please let us know what you find is the trouble.

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Posted February 11, 2016 - 10:32 PM

I find it hard to believe the casting could be plugged, but maybe. Maybe some thing got into the casting before installation, rag, cardboard, etc. In the first post, you mention the exhaust manifold and muffler, no mention of intake manifold. Are the intake and exhaust manifolds one piece?
If you believe a cylinder is not getting any fuel, you could run the engine for a minute or so, then remove the plug from the cylinder you think is missing and see if it's wet. If wet, it's getting fuel, if not wet, then maybe the manifold is the trouble. Just some thoughts,
Maybe one of the holes in the gasket, for the intake maniflod, was not cut out at the factory.
Please let us know what you find is the trouble.

Noel

I didn't get a chance to work on it tonight....I don't have a place to work on it indoors and it's too cold and windy here lol. The exhaust and intake manifold are one piece yes. I find it weird though that with the old manifold on it functioned properly and now all of a sudden with a new one it has a miss. It seems too unlikely to be a coincidence.
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Posted February 11, 2016 - 11:59 PM

Our 35 sounds like it has a miss, but it doesn't.
Always has a little bit.

Pull 1 plug wire at a time and see if it really does.

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Posted February 23, 2016 - 04:26 PM

So here is what I know about the Ferguson after endless screwing around with it. 

 

1. It has spark to all 4 cylinders,

2. Goood compression at 99 PSI in all 4 cylinders

3. The new manifold is not plugged up.

4. It is getting fuel to all 4 cylinders

5. The manifold gasket is not leaking.

 

I'm really scratching my head on this one..........


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Posted February 23, 2016 - 04:49 PM

Are you SURE it's missing?

Can you unplug one wire at a time while it's running to see what Cyl it is?




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