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#1 MNGB ONLINE  

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Posted January 28, 2016 - 07:30 PM

Hi all, well I started the next project today this will be used on the 76 PK 1614, so what is it? Here's some pics for a hint.

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Posted January 28, 2016 - 07:37 PM

Looks like some sort of lift system.
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Posted January 28, 2016 - 07:42 PM

Mid mount grader blade?


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Posted January 28, 2016 - 07:57 PM

Looks like a cylinder mount there, the fulcrum for in frame on the bar stock......Means second hydraulic lift to be able to use seperate actions on your tractor, instead of being used at same time.  Good thing to have when using both rear and front snow blades sort of thing... I win??


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Posted January 28, 2016 - 07:59 PM

It's definitely a lift of some sort!


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Posted January 28, 2016 - 08:12 PM

Fancy clothes hanger.
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Posted January 29, 2016 - 07:28 PM

Hi all, well today I had to go to the Doc's office so that messed up most of the day but he said I was good to go so that's a plus. Well the lift answers are on track but not complete GL is close but I'm not going that involved (at the moment) Username it not a mid mount blade but I've been thinking about that what has stopped me so far is I have not come across a good blade but I'm looking.

Ok here's today"s hint didn't get much done but I'm thinking there will be a winner soon :dancingbanana:

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Posted January 30, 2016 - 02:07 AM

Im gonna go with seperate hydraulic lifts, and or a power angle for a snow plow. 


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Posted January 30, 2016 - 01:10 PM

I know, I know!  Moving cylinder UNDER the axle and running the lift rod forward to make it work seperate from the mower lift link. Kind of putting the Modern left linkage on an older tractor, using parts diagrams from new one. I remember discussing what that little rod was for on the big lift link.  I Win??

 

I had that cylinder mount part right I see.


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Posted January 30, 2016 - 01:38 PM

Hi GL, ya you win, your prize will be in the mail :wave: :dancingbanana: yep once I looked at the smaller rod it made sense on how it all worked, I've been thinking about how to separate the 3 pt lift from the deck or dozer lift, one could use a couple of 3 way valves or install a dual or 3 spool control valve.


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Posted February 03, 2016 - 06:33 AM

One thing you want to keep in mind when you do this is the underneath hydraulics do not provide the travel that the side hydraulics do.  In other words, you won't be able to, say, lift your snowblade as high.  I went through that with mine and in the end, I used an older style push rod to a modified snow blade to get a lift of around 9".  Perhaps you are at the stage where you can do something about this before you put everything together.


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Posted February 03, 2016 - 08:18 AM

Good Morning David, thanks for the heads up, I'd know that and all the parts are in the paint room but I'll figure some thing out. I did notice that to get the plow blade to go up at the same time the 3 pt goes up I will need to change the lift arm on the plow lift. In reality I'm not sure I'm really improving things all that much but its a fun project and if I don't like it I can go back to the original system



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Posted February 03, 2016 - 07:44 PM

Hi, well today I got the parts painted so tomorrow if the paint is cured it will all get assembled and then try it out to see how its going to work, if all that works then its to work on the dozer lift as David mentioned.

 

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Posted February 04, 2016 - 02:26 PM

Hi David, I have a question about the dozer/blade lift system, I got the parts all installed and the 3 PT and deck both go up and down the same but the blade is still opposite, I'm thinking the lift arm on the blade could be changed to were it is up vs down and then all would be the same, how did you do your when you did the change?

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Posted February 04, 2016 - 04:47 PM

ON the blade lift.  My 81 with underneath cylinder DID have a different rockshaft  for blade in front. The part that is on the blade itself. The tab to mount the lift link on is on opposite side (top to bottom or vice-versa, can't recall which) and think shorter too.  There was a universal rockshaft that had BOTH arms on it available at one time to cover all models.  You might need that or a change like that?  Easy enough to make the lift tab and put couple holes in it to adjust the lift movement. You are good at doing those it seems. Wonder if the thumbdrive has any pictures of the diff parts?  You have one of those don't you?


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