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#1 case442 ONLINE  

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Posted January 10, 2016 - 12:27 PM

Hi All,
What the heck did I buy? I got this off an on line auction and they listed it as a pond but the paint is green. I don't see pond casted on any parts. It has a Wisconsin engine that lifts to the side to release pressure off the friction belt. It has a decal on the tank that appears to be pretty old.
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Posted January 10, 2016 - 12:32 PM

Have no idea but love the fact that you bought it and figured you would worry about what it was later lol
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Posted January 10, 2016 - 12:34 PM

I have no clue but that belt splice is interesting, even though the belt is up side down.  That decal kind of looks like an old Popeye logo.   Keep us posted on what you find out.


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Posted January 10, 2016 - 01:15 PM

Roths Garden King model W.  Made by Roths, though it could be rebadged and have a different name on it (e.g. Empire).  Roths made them though.  Actually, it looks like it might be one of the rebadged ones, sold by General Implement.  They called it a model GI, and it looks like that may be part of what's written there.  Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.


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Posted January 10, 2016 - 01:39 PM

Roths Garden King model W.  Made by Roths, though it could be rebadged and have a different name on it (e.g. Empire).  Roths made them though.  Actually, it looks like it might be one of the rebadged ones, sold by General Implement.  They called it a model GI, and it looks like that may be part of what's written there.  Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

I agree that's what it appears to be.



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Posted January 10, 2016 - 01:49 PM

sometimes I ask myself: what did I drink...



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Posted January 10, 2016 - 02:57 PM

sometimes I ask myself: what did I drink...

And then you wonder what you bought!!

 

I agree with the rebadged Roth too. Orange paint was another trademark of General Implement.

The upside down V belt is actually fixed to the pulley and is used for friction drive reverse.


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Posted January 10, 2016 - 04:58 PM

Thank you All,

The original paint looks to be green. And yes the belt is fixed to the pulley and is friction driven. The engine tilts by way of a lever at the handle bar and releases the pulley contact.Can anyone guesstamate the age of it?

 

Mike


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Posted January 10, 2016 - 05:20 PM

Engine was made november 1946 so probably safe to say the machine was sold new in 47'


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Posted January 10, 2016 - 05:30 PM

Great thank you. Its a little older than me then.

 

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Posted January 10, 2016 - 05:34 PM

pour a little oil down the plug hole and see if the engine is free, if so there's a good chance it may fire right up, those are real good engines


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Posted January 10, 2016 - 06:34 PM

The engine turns over by hand but theres a crack in the carb housing.



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Posted January 10, 2016 - 06:48 PM

Looking closer to the decal I see GI and I believe general implement under it. Cant find any info on it on the web though only Roth garden King.

Would anyone have the Empire General implement GI info?

 

Thanks again

Mike


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Posted January 10, 2016 - 06:55 PM

Sorry, I mentioned the wrong brand. I meant Universal, not Empire. To my knowledge, Universal had nothing to do with General Implement. I think they were just two different companies buying tractors from Roths. Universal was Canadian, based out of Hamilton (Bartonville), Ontario.
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