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#1 MiCarl ONLINE  

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Posted January 05, 2016 - 09:31 AM

I've got the shaft made for the mule drive on my Speedex with a Deere deck project.  I clamped the shaft onto the sub frame and measured for a belt - which I will get today.  Assuming everything looks good with the belt in place I'll be ready to weld the shaft to the sub frame.

 

The shaft needs to just clear the front axle pivot, so it needs to be placed fairly precisely.  Ideally I'd tack it down with the sub frame still on the tractor rather than risk it shifting when I pull the sub frame off.  I'll be welding with a stick welder.

 

In the motorcycle world, where I'm most familiar, there is great concern about damaging ignition modules when welding on a motorcycle.  I've never bought in to that - I don't see how if you get a good ground reasonably near where working it could damage the electronics.  Still, I generally disconnect them just to be safe.

 

The Vanguard twin on my Speedex seems to have the ignition module buried under the shroud, so not quick to disconnect.

What kind of experience do you folks have?  If I ground at the sub frame can I safely tack the shaft in place?


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Posted January 05, 2016 - 09:38 AM

Disconnect the battery.
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Posted January 05, 2016 - 09:40 AM

  Just disconnect the ground cable from the batt.

                                             Mike


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Posted January 05, 2016 - 11:44 AM

I disconnect my regulator, along with the battery.

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Posted January 05, 2016 - 11:50 AM

I may not be the safest character, but I just weld!  Never had an issue with any electronics.  Like you said, I place ground near weld and go.


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Posted January 05, 2016 - 11:57 AM

Keep your ground as close to where your welding as possible. Don't let the current pass through bearings or pitting may occur. Other than that I weld as normal with no problems so far.


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Posted January 05, 2016 - 02:35 PM

The old style battery chargers are harder on the newer atv ECM's than anything. I dont own any new enough GTs to have the fancy control modules on them. A guy at work has a ZTR with a keypad instead of a key switch



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Posted January 05, 2016 - 03:22 PM

And DON"T FORGET  THE FIRE EXSTINGUISHER   some tractors can be replace, but you and your tools cant.  Now go have fun.

 

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Posted January 05, 2016 - 06:34 PM

Very true, I know from experience.

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Posted January 05, 2016 - 07:40 PM

Very true, I know from experience.

Noel

 I heard  or read something about that.

 

Patrick.


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Posted January 06, 2016 - 04:36 PM

I tacked the shaft in place this afternoon.

 

You were all correct - the tractor still runs fine.

 

Thanks for your input.


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Posted February 03, 2016 - 11:34 PM

I tacked the shaft in place this afternoon.
 
You were all correct - the tractor still runs fine.
 
Thanks for your input.


Great! Now my two cent's worth...When I worked for Peterbilt Motors assembly plant in Nashville in weld dept. They sent me to Test dept to weld up a pusher axle after it was aligned. 6 1" passes all over head. Stick weld. I thought I did a fine job until our dept foreman told me later that I forgot to UN do the Cannon plug harnesses on the fire wall...I blew the "brain" on the truck....$3,000.
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Posted February 04, 2016 - 06:28 AM

Great! Now my two cent's worth...When I worked for Peterbilt Motors assembly plant in Nashville in weld dept. They sent me to Test dept to weld up a pusher axle after it was aligned. 6 1" passes all over head. Stick weld. I thought I did a fine job until our dept foreman told me later that I forgot to UN do the Cannon plug harnesses on the fire wall...I blew the "brain" on the truck....$3,000.

Not your fault! Trucks shouldn't need "Brains". Only that of the driver!
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Posted February 04, 2016 - 08:16 AM

Not your fault! Trucks shouldn't need "Brains". Only that of the driver!


LOL!!! ECU....back when I hired in the floorboards was still wood and the injector pump still had a linkage from the throttle. Sometimes I question the brains of some driver's tho...especially the one's that can't even speak a lick of English!
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