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#1 Reed Breneman OFFLINE  

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Posted January 01, 2016 - 10:48 PM

I havent posted for a while(kina got busy with end of the year auctions and getting ready for winter)But I finally got started workin on the tractor,this tractors engine runs perfect and the tiller is awsome so basically it just needs to be gone thru and new paint and new seat(new seat$ 75 for a high back,needs new belts too.here she is so far,in primer

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Posted January 01, 2016 - 10:50 PM

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Posted January 02, 2016 - 06:02 AM

So these also had the oil pan in the frame? That's gonna be a nice looking tractor.


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Posted January 02, 2016 - 08:44 AM

So these also had the oil pan in the frame? That's gonna be a nice looking tractor.

Yes, the oil pan is in the frame on the Gilson S series, although it is bolted instead of welded like a Jake.  The oil pan also incorporates the front axle pivot, also.

 

Wish mine had the hydro lift, you wouldn't like that tiller so much if it were manual lift.


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Posted January 02, 2016 - 10:02 AM

you are correct about that,I couldnt imagine lifting the tiller manually,I can hardly drag it when its off the tractor on the floor.I bought the tractor and tiller for 60 dollars and decided right away to fix her up,It wont be a total every nut and bolt restore but will be close and will definatly repair anything thats not right


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Posted January 07, 2016 - 09:14 PM

I was going to move the frame forward in the garage  and the wheels wouldnt turn,like it was in gear but it wasnt,,,hmmmmm,figured it out,its pretty cold in the shop right now ,,,must be a little water in the rear end,transmission,that froze.Warmed up the shop ,,yep now she rolls,,,Drained fluid right now and yep kinda watery,does any one think i need to get into the rear axle and tranny or just put it new fluid after it sits with the plug out for a few weeks?



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Posted January 08, 2016 - 02:07 AM

I'd leave the plug out till run time, fill it with atf for test drive, drain into clean pan,repeat if nessasary, a clean pan will tell you its time for gearlube, atf has solvent's that work on rust (if there's water there's rust) and drying agent's something like dry gas, if the lube that came out was milky it will be sticking to everything in the trany and not drain well so a flush is a must, you could also put the plug back in fill it with e85 pump gas (think 85%dry gas) and let it set over night (out side)drain and reinstall plug till done with paint and time to flush, I have this gt and looking forward to your restoration
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Posted January 08, 2016 - 02:38 AM

I was kinda thinkin flush myself ,it drives great ,no noise or funny stuff so I didnt really want to go opening it up but i was concerned about rust ,I will flush it real good closer to spring and completion,Hopefully that will do it


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Posted January 08, 2016 - 07:23 AM

Does it lock into second gear and hold well?  If not, now might be the time to pull the transaxle apart to replace the detent balls and springs, then clean it out while you are in there.  I would also recommend taking the variable speed apart to clean and lube the moving parts.  You might want to take the right angle box apart to clean the old grease out and refill with JD Cornhead grease, they were originally filled with wheel bearing grease, both of mine were almost solid clumps inside.


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Posted January 08, 2016 - 09:58 AM

yep no problems shifting,it ran good and everything but the lights and the generator works properly(wiring has been chopped everywhere.)I will open theright angle box cause i am sure its probabply original grease and the variator will be taken apart cleaned and lubed.You should have seen the goo that ran out of the tranaxle ,,,,,nasty,,,,,the water in it was probably my fault,it was always shedded till i bought it then it had to sit out with a tarp till now,from now on it has a home in the dry



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Posted February 01, 2016 - 09:56 AM

Thought I better post a few pics now that it is painted and starting to reassemble,I know it is not color correct (suppose to be harvest gold and white but I like this better

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Posted February 01, 2016 - 09:57 AM

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Posted February 01, 2016 - 10:00 AM

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Posted February 01, 2016 - 10:01 AM

she is coming along ,should go faster now


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Posted February 15, 2016 - 08:33 PM

bought this little trailer to pull behind the monty when its done,think I will paint it to match,its made out of 1/4 in steel plate and foam filled tires

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