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#1 Nascar3244888 OFFLINE  

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Posted December 25, 2015 - 07:36 PM

hey guys picked up a ek10 a couple months ago on the cheap. It needed quite a bit of TLC which it is currently getting.  I have since been able to clean the carb, replace a couple ignition components, replace the gas tank( leaked ), aired up the tires etc etc.  I currently have it running driving and mowing very well.  I have yet to change the oil in it becuase their is no easy way of doing this from what i can tell.  I have done some searching around and came across the service bulletin about a new drain location featured on the 931-01 models which located the drain to be in the sump cover and accessed by a allen shape plug. According to my serial number which is 4261039.....the tra10d engine was manufactured in January of 1966.  My thinking is that this was before the addition of the new oil drain location even though I have a 931-01 model.  I was able to acquire the original maunals( which have a date of 9/66 on them ) with this machine including a complete list of maintenance that was complete by the owner up until 1975 which is when there is no more info on anything done.  The family that owned this was what looked to be a kind that once something stopped working they went out and bought another machine and left the other ones sit.  Anyway, is there any really good procedure for changing oil in this thing?  The only easy way I can come up with is to siphon the oil out the dip stick tube.  Otherwise it looks like the engine has to come out to change it......Also I am starting to think if he did change the oil that he may have changed the trans fluid and not the engine oil lol.....any help is greatly appreciated....  


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Posted December 25, 2015 - 07:47 PM

Good to see you here Brad!

Been a while since we've seen you here at GTT!!!! :wave:

 

 

Your Estate keeper would have been marketed for the 1967 Line and if that engine originally came with the machine the plug will be right in the center on the bottom of the gear case cover, it threads into the housing so the only thing you can really feel is the hole for the allen wrench. The early 7Hp estate keepers manufactured from 64' to 66' had the drain plug in the same location as a tubeframe and you had to remove the rear wheel to change the oil.

 

Have any pics of your tractor?


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Posted December 25, 2015 - 09:39 PM

I have worked on a few eks, if you take some pics I can most likely get you going in the right direction. I have found out that a lack of maintenance records has little to do with what was done to a machine as most people don't keep very good records on their machines. Most estate keepers I come across now seem to be in pretty rough condition, I have seen a few that have been taken care of but definitely not the majority! You will find there are a few weak spots that stand out, engine mounts cracking being one. Engine cover cracks seem to be quite common also, I also run across quite a few that split down the middle. Good luck have fun.

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Posted December 25, 2015 - 10:51 PM

Good to see you here Brad!

Been a while since we've seen you here at GTT!!!! :wave:

 

 

Your Estate keeper would have been marketed for the 1967 Line and if that engine originally came with the machine the plug will be right in the center on the bottom of the gear case cover, it threads into the housing so the only thing you can really feel is the hole for the allen wrench. The early 7Hp estate keepers manufactured from 64' to 66' had the drain plug in the same location as a tubeframe and you had to remove the rear wheel to change the oil.

 

Have any pics of your tractor?

Yes it has been a while Brian.  I still work on the tractors and what not but most of the time....i know what im doing....needless to say its really second nature to work on the old bolens but this one got me stomped.  This is the first ek I have ever seen in person or have owned.  I felt along what you are calling the gear case ( I call it the oil sump cover, correct me if im wrong ) and used a flash light as well and I just dont see or feel it. The way the service bulletin shows it should be plain as day to see.  I actually had the notion to pull the engine just to check it out for sure.  You wouldnt happen to have any pics yourself of it??  Also I plan on taking some photos of it.....actually I thought I did but I couldnt find any, so I guess thats on my list of things to do tomorrow...



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Posted December 25, 2015 - 10:58 PM

I dont think I have pics but can get some for you in the next day or so

When I first got mine I had no manuals to go by so I had Quite the time learning the oil drain location! I actually didnt find it until I pulled the motor but once you know where it is its easy.


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Posted December 26, 2015 - 09:53 AM

Hi how you been doing Brad?

 

Your Youtube channel needs more GT related stuff by the way lol.


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Posted December 26, 2015 - 01:30 PM

Even with the pipe plug in the engine gearcase cover, it is not fun standing on your head trying to find it!  So, I've added an extension to the oil drain, consisting of a 4" pipe nipple and a pipe cap.  At least you can feel it to remove the cap (hopefully the cap loosens before the nipple), or, worst case, the nipple serves as a handle to reinsert in the engine gearcase cover hole.


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Posted December 26, 2015 - 07:00 PM

Looks for the plug where its circled in red

 

 

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Posted December 27, 2015 - 09:48 AM

yep dont have it, thanks brian, i guess i will have to siphon the oil out.  I took some photos of the bottom side of the engine as well as the rest of the tractor to share with everyone here so later on i will upload them so everyone can see it



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Posted December 27, 2015 - 10:23 AM

Here are some pics

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Posted December 27, 2015 - 11:16 AM

Could be one of the lower bolts that hold the case together that could be the drain plug.... 



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Posted December 27, 2015 - 11:30 AM

That has to be a replacement engine or replacement gear cover at least, that plug is definitely not there!



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Posted December 27, 2015 - 11:46 AM

Heres the plug, you can even see the casting is different on the bottom, I think these are the only things that used this gear cover and they were specially made for Bolens at the wisconsin plant

 

 

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Posted December 28, 2015 - 09:00 AM

That has to be a replacement engine or replacement gear cover at least, that plug is definitely not there!

 

 

That is my thought, as well.

 

The EK engine would have been painted black, but I don't see any trace of black in those pics.  ...Engine Spec # might give more info.






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