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Posted November 24, 2015 - 10:41 PM

Hulk II is the same machine you have. I pulled the rear plate and dropped the transaxle. There are P clamps for the Hi-Lo lever, but you should be able to remove the carter pin on the Hi-lo shaft, then drop the transaxle.


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Posted November 24, 2015 - 10:56 PM

Th the control rod have two p style clamps to hold it against the frame?

Yes it does have those...but the main parts I question are the 2 pieces on either side of the control rod which link it together with the rod coming out of trans axle housing.  Neither of my books show that set up. I will attempt a photo of it tomorrow, if I have the lighting fixed. More in detail to see photo...It looks to be all riveted together.



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Posted November 24, 2015 - 11:00 PM

Hulk II is the same machine you have. I pulled the rear plate and dropped the transaxle. There are P clamps for the Hi-Lo lever, but you should be able to remove the carter pin on the Hi-lo shaft, then drop the transaxle.

Nope, what I expected also...but, there is no cotter pin.  Will attempt to post a photo of this set up tomorrow. Thinking someone mickey moused this.

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Posted November 24, 2015 - 11:01 PM

Hulk II is the same machine you have. I pulled the rear plate and dropped the transaxle. There are P clamps for the Hi-Lo lever, but you should be able to remove the carter pin on the Hi-lo shaft, then drop the transaxle.

"Pulled the rear plate", as in, you removed the entire rear?



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Posted November 25, 2015 - 10:21 AM

"Pulled the rear plate", as in, you removed the entire rear?

Yes, I think the rear plate is "hooked" over the axle, and there are common bolts that go through the hook part into the transaxle. I am thinking on a Hulk-II refresh, later this winter, unless something else comes along  I'll have pictures then.


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Posted November 25, 2015 - 12:53 PM

Here're the photos of my problem...such as it is.

Mickey mouse or what?IMG_20151125_123334_007.jpg IMG_20151125_123349_305.jpg



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Posted November 25, 2015 - 01:15 PM

Th the control rod have two p style clamps to hold it against the frame?

Here is what I have to contend with.. Not sure what they did but it isn't OEM...is it?IMG_20151125_123334_007.jpg IMG_20151125_123349_305.jpg


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Posted November 25, 2015 - 01:20 PM

Hulk II is the same machine you have. I pulled the rear plate and dropped the transaxle. There are P clamps for the Hi-Lo lever, but you should be able to remove the carter pin on the Hi-lo shaft, then drop the transaxle.

This is what I'm up against. Definitely not OEM...is it?IMG_20151125_123334_007.jpg IMG_20151125_123349_305.jpg


Edited by Phluphy, November 25, 2015 - 05:56 PM.


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Posted November 25, 2015 - 06:26 PM

If you take those p clamps off it should drop down enough I just did one
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Posted November 25, 2015 - 10:50 PM

If you take those p clamps off it should drop down enough I just did one

I hope so. Just ran across a post by TAHOE, where he goes into detail about removing the trans axle. All appears straight forward except for the link in the shift rod and I don't want to mess with that.

Going on with dropping the trans axle down just enough and go from there.

One other question...Should I remove the rear plate or will it work to just remove the bolts on either end of the top bracket?

I'll know more with the more that is exposed, but, hoping to get the band off without much more dis-assembly.

Will know more Friday.

Have good turkey day.  Thanks 



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Posted November 25, 2015 - 11:49 PM

Hi Phluphy, have you looked on you tube? you might find exactly what you're looking for. If you have a stout overhead beam in your shop that you can hook a come a long or a chain hoist to that's a start. I will include some pics of my set up maybe it will give you some ideas, I also have a 2x8 board with wheels on it.

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Posted November 26, 2015 - 09:22 AM

I didn't remove the rear plate nut it's up to you , I put jack stands on both sides of the axle and Jacked the rear up with Jack on the rear plate that way the transmission is sitting on the stands when you pick it up. I put a tire underneath for the transmission to rest on . You need to take that bar off the bottom that holds the deck. If you don't you have to pull the tractor to the rear after you jack it off the tranny so it will swing down
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Posted November 27, 2015 - 12:32 PM

And this project just gained another glitch...The trans axle appears to have 2 cracks on the right side (facing front) where the axle housing starts. Back to square one with the shift linkage if it has be be disconnected to have the housing welded. Don't think JB weld is going to suffice. 

Beginning to wonder if I won't be ahead to try finding another trans axle with OEM shift linkage and be done with it. 

Replacing this brake lining is turning into a "3 hour tour", if anyone recalls what I'm referring to.  :)

Catch 22 is: the cracks must not be all the way through as there is no lube seeping out of them.

Gary yz, do you think fuel tank, rear fender etc. will have to come off for me to access the bolts on top of the trans axle?

Will try with removing the bolts from either end of the bracket to see if it drops down enough to access the flat head screw behind the brake assembly which apparently is the only obstacle in progress.



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Posted November 27, 2015 - 12:57 PM

Might be easier to just install disc brakes :D


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Posted November 27, 2015 - 05:01 PM

Finally! After every other avenue...Took fender/seat/fuel tank off...the band bolts were right there...removed them, band came off all good! Someone once stated "nothing like reaching behind your back to scratch an elbow" or something like that. About what this project reminded me of.

From the looks of things the band hasn't touched that drum in several years.

Downhill now!!!  Not again in this life time.

Thanks for your patience, suggestions and advice.


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