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#1 BolensChrisUK OFFLINE  

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Posted November 19, 2015 - 05:53 PM

Right, 1st tractor to show you all is this wreak of an HT20 with Johnson Loader & Brantly Backhoe.

 

Been rusting away for years in Belfast Titanic Country. I brought it & had it shipped the 450ish miles to me.

 

The hydrostat pump is missing, guess it was burnt out then the owner just let it rot for the next 20 plus years. The rear fender is also missing & engine full of water.

 

I brought it for the loader to fit on my 1886, but that needs lots of TLC when I get the time.

 

One question please.

 

Can you have a deck fitted with a front loader??

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Posted November 19, 2015 - 06:00 PM

Well now, I have seen worse,but you got the nice attachments there,I'm having a brain fart right now,I'll have to g out and look at mine to answer your question about mounting the deck,I know for sure you can't with the backhoe on


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Posted November 19, 2015 - 06:12 PM

Some nice attachments there.
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Posted November 19, 2015 - 07:13 PM

The mowing deck will fit with the loader, however I'm not sure if you can run the deck with the backhoe at the same time.

 

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Posted November 19, 2015 - 07:54 PM

With the mounting system for the backhoe,you can't use the deck at the same time,this has to do with the sub frame of the backhoe
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Posted November 19, 2015 - 07:56 PM

The mowing deck will fit with the loader, however I'm not sure if you have can run the deck with the backhoe at the same time
Thanks Austen,saves me a trip to the garage
 
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Posted November 19, 2015 - 08:43 PM

It also depends on how your loader pump is powered.
You should have all three PTO belts to run the mower deck.
The hydro pump should be run off another pulley or sheave between the engine and the three belts.
Mine uses one of the three to power the pump.
It may look ugly, but, I'll bet that tractor is not in bad shape!

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Posted November 20, 2015 - 04:47 AM

It also depends on how your loader pump is powered.
You should have all three PTO belts to run the mower deck.
The hydro pump should be run off another pulley or sheave between the engine and the three belts.
Mine uses one of the three to power the pump.
It may look ugly, but, I'll bet that tractor is not in bad shape!

Joe

 

I have had the pleasure of seeing Chris's loader/backhoe tractor and the loader pump uses one of the three PTO belts.

 

I admire Chris's determination in getting this machine home, I know he put a lot of time and effort in making it happen. It was worth it as the attachments are fantastic

 

Iain


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Posted November 20, 2015 - 03:41 PM

Yes the the pump is run off 1 of the PTO pullys on the engine. As Iain noticed when he was drooling over it!!

 

This poor thing was sat in a hedge covered in ivy for 20 pluss years. The steering rod has totaly rotted away!

 

As the hydrostat unit is missing, the rear axle is full of water, mud & leaves. Not sure if theres any oil in it to protect the gears down below.

 

The cowls on the engine have rotted away also. I plan to remove it at some point & sink it into some diesel fuel for a few years to see if theres anything which I can save.

 

As I said, I plan to fit the loader on my 1886 at some point. Maybe when my son is a little bigger then he can help, Hes only 1 year so can just watch while mum waits for us to come in covered in grease :thumbs:

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Posted November 20, 2015 - 05:12 PM

I have not seen the close up photos of your FEL Chris. It will look great on your 1886 or your lastest steed, the 1554.
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Posted November 20, 2015 - 06:51 PM

Interesting, your loader looks like mine.
Can we see a picture of the other side?
And the pump?
I see it has a PTO driven pump on the front is that used just for the back hoe?
If the tractor was laid up due to a bad hydro pump, maybe the engine was still good?

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Posted November 21, 2015 - 02:27 PM

I have not seen the close up photos of your FEL Chris. It will look great on your 1886 or your lastest steed, the 1554.

 

Andrew, it wont fit my lastest as its a tube frame. Its a 1556 by the way :poke:


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Posted November 21, 2015 - 02:34 PM

Andrew, it wont fit my lastest as its a tube frame. Its a 1556 by the way :poke:


Just testing your knowledge Chris.......
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Posted November 21, 2015 - 02:57 PM

Interesting, your loader looks like mine.
Can we see a picture of the other side?
And the pump?
I see it has a PTO driven pump on the front is that used just for the back hoe?
If the tractor was laid up due to a bad hydro pump, maybe the engine was still good?

Joe

 

Hi Joe,

 

I will get some pics of the pump & other side next week. The pump on the front is to power the back hoe.

 

Who knows what the engine is like inside. I took a plug out & saw water. Its all very rotton in the tin work dept

 

It took me over a month to work out a way to unload it from the trailer & get it into my mates barn. In the end we lifted it off using a large loader tractor & man handled it in as nothing turns

 

It needs the rams rebuit & new hoses for the loader.

 

The back hoe is stuck solid on every pivot, Rams Rusty & hoses also need replacing.

 

What I need is to remove it & put it into a large tank of diesel for 10 years to free it all


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Posted November 21, 2015 - 03:06 PM

Just a suggestion but if you do use the back hoe and loader together again I would put them on something other then a HT20 like a 1886 or HT23.  That combo of loader and backhoe is hard on the bull gear in the rear end of the HT20s. 


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