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Posted November 16, 2015 - 09:17 PM

What do the seals cross over to other brands? want to try and get them locally rather than online. thanks



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Posted November 16, 2015 - 09:50 PM

I am not sure if I missed something but make and model might help, also what seals are you speaking of?

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Posted November 16, 2015 - 09:56 PM

I am not sure if I missed something but make and model might help, also what seals are you speaking of?

ya sorry i left that out. its on a 64 simplicity landlord. i need the seals for input shaft and both sides of the output shaft. thanks



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Posted November 16, 2015 - 09:59 PM

Sorry I won't be much help for that but I am sure someone will come along and be up on the know of that tractor, good luck!

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Posted November 16, 2015 - 10:07 PM

Here's a pic of a BGB and the seals. The RH side seal is a National brand 450233 and is NLA. This seal is .50 thick and replacement seals will only be .25 thick. This is the side that gets the shims, so it will be critical to get it right when reassembling the BGB.

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Posted November 16, 2015 - 10:13 PM

http://gardentractor...b-seal-numbers/

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Posted November 16, 2015 - 10:14 PM

If you measure the shaft and the inside bearing hole where the seal goes and how thick the seal is or depth of hole they can give you one at a store where they sale bearings we have erie bearing here in pa that has any size you need or you can google the demensions and one will come up to buy

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Posted November 16, 2015 - 10:22 PM

Here's a pic of a BGB and the seals. The RH side seal is a National brand 450233 and is NLA. This seal is .50 thick and replacement seals will only be .25 thick. This is the side that gets the shims, so it will be critical to get it right when reassembling the BGB.

so i need to some how use 2?



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Posted November 16, 2015 - 10:30 PM

Here's a pic of a BGB and the seals. The RH side seal is a National brand 450233 and is NLA. This seal is .50 thick and replacement seals will only be .25 thick. This is the side that gets the shims, so it will be critical to get it right when reassembling the BGB.

Simplicity part # 2168006SM is what they used on the variable speed tractors. That wouldn't work would it? thanks 



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Posted November 16, 2015 - 10:35 PM

Two seals should be OK, but I've never tried it.
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Posted November 16, 2015 - 10:48 PM

The 2168006SM seal has the same I.D. and O.D. as the National 450322 seal. It's just that the National seal is .50 thick and the 2168006SM seal is .250 thick. Two of the 2168006SM seals should do the trick. The I.D. of both seals is 1.000 and the O.D. of both seals is 1.878.
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Posted November 16, 2015 - 11:03 PM

SKF oil seal, part number 10075 is the same seal as 2168006SM.
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Posted November 16, 2015 - 11:23 PM

SKF oil seal, part number 10075 is the same seal as 2168006SM.

thanks. more im thinking about it i might try to use a stop leak product since it appears to be a slow leak and maybe i can stop it all together without having to pull bevel gearbox to reseal and then reshim the one side.



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Posted November 16, 2015 - 11:32 PM

By all means, replace the seals. The lips on the seals wear down and start seeping oil over time. Shimming is a piece of cake, and there will be a bunch of shims already in place on your BGB. All you have to do is install enough shims so that the last shim is flush with the BGB housing.
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Posted November 17, 2015 - 07:44 PM

By all means, replace the seals. The lips on the seals wear down and start seeping oil over time. Shimming is a piece of cake, and there will be a bunch of shims already in place on your BGB. All you have to do is install enough shims so that the last shim is flush with the BGB housing.

can i still get the shims? and are they F and G on this diagram? Thanks

 

http://www.sepw.com/...90314/023300401

 

also trans seems to shift a little hard. really dont want to dig into that






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