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#1 michael.kitko OFFLINE  

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Posted November 13, 2015 - 10:15 AM

I am taking a break from doing the articulated tractor to do a bit of getting ready for winter work. I have this 140 and a mounting plate for a 33 tiller. I am gonna do a bit of cutting and welding to make it so the 49 Thrower can mount off the back and be driven by the modified mount. The only thing that might be changed on the 49 is the pulley. I am also going to tackle a light bar add-on. The goal is to have the Thrower mounted on the back and the 54 blade up front. There is a YouTube video where this has been done, but no documentation. I am gonna do the build documentation here.

Side end goal is to make the mount have a set of detachable arms and a 2000 RPM style belt-driven, lever-opetated PTO for mounting a rear finish mower this summer. The "Beast" is probably not gonna make it through next summer and I will need a back up.
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Posted November 13, 2015 - 10:51 AM

I saw that video, it's neat. Noel.
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Posted November 13, 2015 - 11:00 AM

Would this fit?   http://worcester.cra...5295999058.html       Good Luck, Rick


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Posted November 13, 2015 - 05:04 PM

Well, today, I went to pull the pulley and ran into the first issue. The pulley on the 49 was stuck as all get out. Could not budge the thing. I soaked it in PB Blaster after pulling one of the set screws. The other was stripped out and needed to be drilled out. Well, after the better part of a couple hours, the pulley was finally off. Luckily, the shaft to the 49 was not injured or damaged. Well, besides a little nick, where I was a bit deeper than I should have been. The shaft is perfectly serviceable though. Anyways, I also got the mount cut apart and did some measurements. Low and behold, I thought this was gonna be a quick mount build. Boy, was I wrong. I tacked up the one side and to my surprise, the shaft didn't line up like I thought it would. So, I got angry, got out my BFH and busted it apart. I then left in a mood and went upstairs for a shower. Some of the best ideas come to me after doing some stupid stuff. It hit me, why did I have to break those tacks, I could use pillow block bearings and run the shaft a bit lower for the blower and then when summer comes, take those bearing out and put the PTO shaft in. Anyways, more to follow.

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Posted November 13, 2015 - 05:30 PM

Side note, just found a guy on YouTube that did this same thing to a 400...



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Posted November 13, 2015 - 08:15 PM

Always more to some thing than one thinks at the start. That always happens to me. I bought a 49 thrower last weekend. Hooked it to my 140. All seemed fine until I went to put the belt on. Pulleys did not line up. !!!!! So, I got the pulley of the thrower, which went easier than I figured, and had to weld am extension on the pulley. It now lines up and works good.

I am normally not very good at figuring out those three capital things like BFH, or what ever, but got that one fairly quick. Noel

Any link to the 400 with rear blower.?
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Posted November 13, 2015 - 10:02 PM

Link to the 400 video...

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=yfEMmvN-DsY



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Posted November 14, 2015 - 02:26 PM

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know the weight of the 49...

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Posted November 14, 2015 - 02:52 PM

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know the weight of the 49...

 

IIRC just over 200 lbs  More than I want to handle myself and perfect fit on a Harbor Freight moving dolly.


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Posted November 16, 2015 - 06:35 PM

After work, I took a little time to bend up the 1/4" x 1 1/2" steel for the light bracket. Now, I am not too sure on how I am gonna mount the lights. Their holders only allow them to go to 90° from where the bracket bolts up. I am thinking a spacer at an angle or modifying the bracket that came with them. The original idea was to mount them on the top of the light bar. Well, I am gonna do a bit of thinking on it and get going.

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Posted November 19, 2015 - 06:35 PM

I have now drilled some holes to give the lights some homes to be mounted to. I also, drilled the holes for the seat mounting points, where the bar is attaching under the seat. I took out the bolts in the seat to look at how long they were, and realized I have to add about 1/4". Since I don't want to go and buy new bolts, I am just gonna take some left over all thread I have and make some studs for mounting the bar to the seat.

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Posted November 20, 2015 - 06:37 PM

Cut the angle iron for the stickers to stick to and drilled some holes to mount it. Did the mounting of the angle iron pieces and added the studs to the seat. I then mounted up the bar on the tractor and here are some pictures of that. Not too sure about the look. I might flip the lights to the bottom to see what that is like. I am also considering bending it up a bit more and possibly even cutting the ends to flip them. Any suggestions?

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Posted November 20, 2015 - 09:09 PM

Here are the two options I am up against. Either under or over the mounting bar. I am going to pull the bar and bend it some more, because I don't like how long it is. I do have some more space to get it higher and more inward. Another thing to consider is if I should modify the bends at the end. Either cut them off and weld them on at a different spot or completely flip them. Not sure. Again, I am open to suggestions.

 

 

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Posted November 24, 2015 - 07:51 PM

I read 265 lb for the thrower. Noel
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Posted November 24, 2015 - 08:09 PM

I would have those lights, closer to the seat and at fender level. I can see getting fetched in them trying to get on and off. And any body walking by will get into them. Mount the rear ones close to the sides and top of the seat, and front ones at the front some where. Better lighting, with no glare from the lights in your eyes. Mount the front lights on the plow bracket maybe. Don't mean to upset your idea, just my thoughts. Noel.
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