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k181 kohler 8hp bad kick back when trying to start anyone know why this may be happening ?


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#1 Bob S K181 OFFLINE  

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Posted November 10, 2015 - 03:40 PM

HI  my name is bob  i am new to GT Talk  and not sure if i am in the rite forum , if any one knows the answer to why my k181 engien is kicking back wen trying to start  to the point of pulling the hand starter rope so hard it hurt my shoulder leaving me afraid to even a temp  trying to start it again     



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Posted November 10, 2015 - 04:04 PM

Welcome to GTtalk Bob.  The first thing that comes to my mind would be a timing or ignition issue.


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Posted November 10, 2015 - 04:42 PM

Welcome to the forums,

I had the same problem with a Honda ATC the other day, it was a carb condition and went away after I rebuilt the carb. It kicked back enough to hurt my elbow for several days.

Edited by Chopperhed, November 10, 2015 - 04:44 PM.

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Posted November 10, 2015 - 05:04 PM

Assuming that it has Magneto ignition since it has a Pull starter.Sounds like the Flywheel key is sheared.That's the 1st thing that I would check.

 

 

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Edited by EricFromPa, November 10, 2015 - 05:05 PM.

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Posted November 10, 2015 - 05:05 PM

Welcome to GTT.  Try this manual, Section 4 is troubleshooting:  http://gardentractor...service-manual/    . The kick back can be early spark and/or valve timing. Either can be corrected by adjusting the points and valve gaps. The flywheel key affects timing too. Good Luck, Rick


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Posted November 10, 2015 - 05:39 PM

I would say the key way in the flywheel is broke , kick back is the first sign of that
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Posted November 10, 2015 - 07:00 PM

Glad your here Bob. Let us know how it works out.


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Posted November 10, 2015 - 07:25 PM

:welcometogttalk:  I vote for flywheel key.


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Posted November 10, 2015 - 07:59 PM

Sounds like timing is off, like others said check the flywheel key. 


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Posted November 10, 2015 - 08:11 PM

Welcome to GTT, Bob !

 

As others have already said, ignition timing and/or valve timing can cause kick-back.

 

However, your starting method may be causing what you are experiencing.

 

If you are pulling the rope or recoil and the kick-back is occurring  mid-pull, I think this is more of a procedure error. 

 

On any engine with a rope-start or recoil start, when attempting to start it, pull the rope gently until compression resistance is felt.  .....Wrap the rope further on the pulley or let the recoil retract.  .....THEN, give a quick, firm pull to get it to start.

 

If you are doing this already, then you have a timing issue. 


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Posted November 10, 2015 - 08:20 PM

Welcome aboard Bob, enjoy the site the above advise is spot on.
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Posted November 11, 2015 - 06:02 PM

Thank you so much   I am new  as you prob;y know , and stilling learning how to get around  in here     ,  with  that  said what nice group of ppl  i was shocked to see all the reply s  I am a guy   who use to have a   really nice log splinter  a old licketty splitter with a k181 kohler  engien  that ran great like a bear , till i messed with it sigh   i am so lost,    The story on how any why this happened  may be long, and being new to here  , i am not sure if its ok to post  in this part  of your forums  , in short i dont want to brake any rules  , thing is i heat my home with wood and i am in a bad way   again thank you for replying    



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Posted November 11, 2015 - 06:13 PM

Thank you so much   I am new  as you prob;y know , and stilling learning how to get around  in here     ,  with  that  said what nice group of ppl  i was shocked to see all the reply s  I am a guy   who use to have a   really nice log splinter  a old licketty splitter with a k181 kohler  engien  that ran great like a bear , till i messed with it sigh   i am so lost,    The story on how any why this happened  may be long, and being new to here  , i am not sure if its ok to post  in this part  of your forums  , in short i dont want to brake any rules  , thing is i heat my home with wood and i am in a bad way   again thank you for replying    

 

Where are you in NJ?  ....If you're close by, I may be able to help.


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Posted November 11, 2015 - 06:14 PM

iIf ok i add the flywheel key ok   it use to kick back  now its dead  



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Posted November 11, 2015 - 06:19 PM

 rite  now  nothing  you can do here till i get a few parts  like  a new  head  gasket  and points  and  a few other parts    witch i have order  get  me ?  yea i  touch every thing  sigh  i am so sad and feel so dumb 






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