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#16 cchap45 OFFLINE  

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Posted October 28, 2015 - 07:52 AM

Wow, your quick! nice work!  how about some close ups of the pump and mount? i like the idea of not using the mule drive.


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Posted November 05, 2015 - 12:57 PM

How's it working for you?  You're going to want to keep a close eye on the steering box...even running ribbed fronts it's not made to last very long when turning with a loaded front bucket.  Ideally you may want to start scrounging parts for a power steering conversion.


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Posted November 08, 2015 - 08:47 PM

Here's some pictures of my oil pump bracket. I went with a very basic version using what I had lying around. I used two 3/8 inch thick steel bars to mount the pump. It does the job. I'll paint them next summer when I have more time and will probably also paint the loader. 

 

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Posted November 08, 2015 - 08:52 PM

How's it working for you?  You're going to want to keep a close eye on the steering box...even running ribbed fronts it's not made to last very long when turning with a loaded front bucket.  Ideally you may want to start scrounging parts for a power steering conversion.

 

I haven't used it a lot. I'll use it this winter removing snow. The big test will be next summer when I use it to move some dirt in my yard. I'm already looking at a 1855 that I might get and move the loader on it. I think the 55 series is a little more robust on the front end.



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Posted November 08, 2015 - 09:45 PM

You might want to put a clip on the mule drive pin,help it from vibrating and bending your brackets and wear on your belt. just my .02 cents.
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Posted November 09, 2015 - 09:14 AM

You might want to put a clip on the mule drive pin,help it from vibrating and bending your brackets and wear on your belt. just my .02 cents.

I will, thanks for the advice.


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Posted November 10, 2015 - 12:43 PM

I will, thanks for the advice.

I guess I should mention that there is another set of bolts on each side and on top that is hidden by the front grill.


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Posted November 10, 2015 - 01:16 PM

Oh. Alright. Lol. Couldn't see them. Hope it workd great for you 


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Posted November 18, 2015 - 03:15 AM

You've already noticed that this series of MF tractors doesn't have a decent place to mount a pump without losing a PTO, so I cheated and made a new PTO shaft from the engine back past the seat pan on my 1655. Both PTOs are (well, were) in place and functional and I ended up with live power for my pump that doesn't interfere with the rear PTO. and the rack for the pump, filter, and another valve set for the log splitter doesn't interfere with the  3PH.  As an added bonus, I got a seat for passengers and a place to hook up the chain falls to lift it!

 

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Posted November 23, 2015 - 11:28 AM

That's a great idea, unfortunately, the 1650 doesn't have a rear PTO, I wish it did and don't know why they didn't put it as a standard on all the 16XX.

Thanks for the pictures!

It's always great to see how other people manage to get around issues like this.

 

Michel 



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Posted January 17, 2016 - 01:32 AM

Your tractor may not have a rear PTO, but I'm pretty sure that it was an option. It connects to the engine stub shaft and runs straight out through a bearing bolted to the rear plate.


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Posted January 19, 2016 - 01:26 PM

Yes it was an option back then but I'm looking at acquiring an 1855 that has everything already built-in.



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Posted January 19, 2016 - 03:29 PM

The 1855' have different pto shafts. Will not work on the 50 series.



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Posted January 20, 2016 - 10:37 PM

I misspoke. The engine crank is inline with the hydro on the 1650. The PTO shaft is above that with a bearing and mount and driven by a pair of belts. I believe that it is the same PTO shaft as on the 1655/1855. The extra 4" of wheelbase on the 1655/1855 tractors is all ahead of the engine flywheel to accommodate the belts for the front/mid  PTO shaft through the front axle and the longer Onan.crankshaft.

 

In any event, a PTO shaft can be installed to deliver power for a pump mounted at the rear of the tractor. It just cannot direct drive the pump if a 3PH is installed. The top link will interfere with the pump if you try. That is why my pump is mounted above the seat pan.


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Posted January 21, 2016 - 03:43 PM

Thanks, my plan was to move the loader on an 1855 tractor and power the pump off of the front PTO. Although it might just stay where it is since the seller is asking more than what his tractor is worth...


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