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#1 FixItCharlie OFFLINE  

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Posted October 01, 2015 - 09:36 PM

Some time ago I made a Rear Scoop.

 

Rear Scoop 1.jpg

 

By removing these pins the bucket can be removed some of my original thoughts on this was having the ability to turn the bucket around so that it could be loaded by driving the tractor. I have not tried this yet as I still have some things to think about to make this work.

 

SF1.jpg    SF2.jpg

 

If you have ever worked on a garage door you may recognize what these pins are. Now to use this frame for a box blade.

 

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This may even be used with the bucket I am still thinking on the future of this devise.

 

NA2.jpg

 

Now to attach the box blade.

 

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The extra holes in the 2 X 2 is for angling the blade.

 

BB1 1.jpg

 

The box blade it is still in the construction phase so everything is still rough looking.

 

BB1 2.jpg

 

The box ends of the blade are bolted on.

 

BB1 3.jpg

 

The mounting of the blade is 1/2 inch pins so that it could pivot to adjust the angle of the blade.

 

BB1 4.jpg

 

This an attempt to show the blade being angled.

 

BB2 1.jpg

 

This is the teeth for breaking up the soil. Some testing of these show that they do work but may need some modifications as they are being used more. As of now it seems to be a working tool, now using it to learn what modifications will be needed. At this time the handle for latching the bucket is not mounted on the frame but will be reinstalled & I have some thoughts to changes for it. Making an implement that can be modified for different tasks is the real challenge. The thinking & studying for future needs can be the fun part of building implements like this.

 

Charlie

 


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Posted October 02, 2015 - 04:52 AM

I enjoy the build more than using the implement. I guess it's the challenge of making it all work. Good job!


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Posted October 02, 2015 - 05:14 AM

Nice how you made the framework of the first box blade as something you can keep making other attachments for like this scraper :thumbs:


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Posted October 02, 2015 - 05:34 AM

I like that scoop. It is neat how you can split the bucket from the frame.
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Posted October 05, 2015 - 08:21 PM

While using the box blade some this weekend I found some weak points in the mounting. I took the old mount apart  redesigned it. I think this will be a lot stronger & last longer.

 

BB3 3.jpg

 

While I had it outside where I could get more distance from it I tried to capture having the blade angled. One picture with it angled both ways.

 

BB3 1.jpg

 

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Posted April 17, 2016 - 01:40 PM

I made some changes to the dump mechanism for the scoop that should make it better. 

 

Scoop Dump 1.jpg    Scoop Dump 2.jpg    Scoop Dump 3.jpg

 

I had cut some more slot in the catch for the lever but after the assembly completed I found that a stop is needed.

 

Scoop Dump 4.jpg

 

One of the things I always thought about with this set up was turning the scoop around. I will do some testing of this idea.

 

Scoop Dump 5.jpg   Scoop Dump 6.jpg

 

I am also studying a way to put hinges so that I have a way to change the level for the box blade.

 

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Posted February 04, 2017 - 11:26 PM

As I mentioned in my last post of hinges on the box blade, I have started working on this. One of the problems I found with the box blade is as the box blade fills being able to control the release of what has been scraped up. Researching & studying the use & adjustment of box blade I found that box blades that are used with a three point hitch are capable of having better adjustability. My box blade uses a sleeve hitch so it does not have the top link to make some of the adjustments so I used hinges so to have more adjustments. The strength of most hinges I did not feel last with type of abuse so I made my own.

 

BBMod2.JPG    BBMod3.JPG

 

BBMod4.JPG    BBMod5.JPG

 

Each block is made of 1 1/2 inch long piece of 3/4 X 3/4 square rod. Drilling & using a bolt to make the pivot. Welding these to plates makes the hinge.

 

BBMod6.JPG   BBMod9.JPG

 

Now I cut off the mounting plate to put the hinges on.

 

BBMod1.JPG   BBMod7.JPG

 

BBMod8.JPG

 

Then weld the hinge into place.

 

BBMod9.JPG   BBMod10.JPG

 

Now finding the way to use the handle to make the adjustments that is wanted.

 

BBMod11.JPG   BBMod12.JPG

 

 

Charlie

 


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Posted February 05, 2017 - 06:00 AM

A sleeve hitch limits what you can do with implements. Sometimes, more bite is needed, sometimes less. I find I adjust the top link a lot with my 3-point BB. Just depends on how much I want to dig up.



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Posted February 05, 2017 - 01:44 PM

Yes Kenny that is true but I am not sure that I want put a 3-point on my tractor at this time. Many other projects to work on but maybe after I retire in a year it may be an option.

 

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Posted February 06, 2017 - 06:50 AM

Here's a rough sketch of one way to change the angle of attack.

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Turn the threaded rod to adjust the blade angle.


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Posted February 06, 2017 - 09:11 AM

I like your blade and scoop. I am hoping to build a rear blade this year and I may try building a scoop like yours as well. Last year I built a sleeve hitch dump rake, starting with a tow behind dethatcher. It has an angle adjustment very similar to what Kenny has pictured.

 

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Posted February 06, 2017 - 09:34 AM

That's what I had in mind. Thanks for the pics!


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Posted February 06, 2017 - 10:11 AM

Thanks for fixing the pictures Kenny. I haven't had that issue before.

 

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Posted February 06, 2017 - 09:29 PM

I modified your drawing to try to show how I am doing it on mines BB.

 

Box Blade.jpg

 

I also took some pictures which should help.

 

BBMod13.JPG    BBMod14.JPG

 

You may recognize the handle & catch. They are spares to the lift mechanism on a Ford LGT.

 

BBMod15.JPG    BBMod16.JPG

 

I used angle to reduce the flex as it is being used.

 

BBMod17.JPG    BBMod18.JPG

 

BBMod19.JPG    BBMod20.JPG

 

It does pivot the blade up. Connection point will be on both ends of the blade. Now when the box blade is full I should be able to control how much is being released. I may need to change the mounting at the lever end to have more control of the blade pivot. The part that bolted to the angle is to allow some adjustment of the blade also.

 

Charlie


Edited by FixItCharlie, February 06, 2017 - 09:33 PM.

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