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Posted February 07, 2016 - 08:55 PM

Lovejoy is meant to be a fixed fitting it is not made to move side to side like that. That is what a universal yoke is made for much like WrenchinOnIt stated.

 

I did a setup like his back in 2010 on my 1886-03 with loader.

 

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Posted February 07, 2016 - 10:04 PM

On the Bolens GT2000 the PTO shaft goes through the axle pivot  so we don't have to deal with that movement. Looks like a couple of guys have come up with good solutions for you.

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Posted February 08, 2016 - 06:05 AM

WrenchinOnIt...I agree the Lovejoy is not the way to go in this configuration and not enough room for a shaft set up to run the pump. I guess I rushed this a little and didn't pay attention to the fact that the axle pivots above the shaft and not around the shaft.

And now that I think about it I'd rather have the pump out front so I can use the mid PTO for my tiller and not have to take the loader off.

Thank you for your help and the pictures!
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Posted February 08, 2016 - 06:14 AM

AA Hayes, I just took the blade off yesterday because it kept getting hung up in the snow...I'll see if I have any pictures. It would be pretty simple to build a mount and blade like the Terra blade. It works great on soft or freshly dumped dirt/gravel but does not do very well on a packed driveway (that is rocky) like mine. It fetches up on rocks and lifts the rear enough to loose traction.

I can get pictures of it off the tractor and some measurements if you're interested.
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Posted February 08, 2016 - 06:41 AM

What have you guys used for pumps?


WrenchinOnIt, is that the pump that you used or just to show how it mounts?

The pump I have on it currently is a Dynamic .61cu in, 4.91 gpm at 2000 rpm and it seems a little slow...still manageable but it takes about 8 second to lift all the way with an empty bucket.
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Posted February 08, 2016 - 08:32 AM

What have you guys used for pumps?
WrenchinOnIt, is that the pump that you used or just to show how it mounts?
The pump I have on it currently is a Dynamic .61cu in, 4.91 gpm at 2000 rpm and it seems a little slow...still manageable but it takes about 8 second to lift all the way with an empty bucket.


That is the pump that will be going on the tractor, but the tractor also has a backhoe on it, I have the Brantley literature and it calls for a 7gpm pump, this will achieve (or very close to it) that @ WOT. I would think that gpm you have is ample for a loader. I'm not a hydraulic guru, I do diligence on research and have a great hydro shop relatively close. Eight seconds empty seems slow. See what others think,maybe post questions under the mechanical/hydraulics heading. There is a guy on MTF (Tudor , I think it is) who fields and answers most hydraulic questions ,very knowledgeable, not sure if he's on here. Good luck, keep us posted.
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Posted February 08, 2016 - 10:38 AM

AA Hayes, I just took the blade off yesterday because it kept getting hung up in the snow...I'll see if I have any pictures. It would be pretty simple to build a mount and blade like the Terra blade. It works great on soft or freshly dumped dirt/gravel but does not do very well on a packed driveway (that is rocky) like mine. It fetches up on rocks and lifts the rear enough to loose traction.

I can get pictures of it off the tractor and some measurements if you're interested.


A lot of folks would like to see pics and measurements of your Terra-Blade. Start a new thread just for that.
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Posted February 08, 2016 - 11:18 AM

Line size can cause slowness also. If the hoses are 1/4", you might need to upgrade to 3/8" for faster (more volume) flow to the cylinders.



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Posted February 08, 2016 - 12:34 PM

AA Hayes, I just took the blade off yesterday because it kept getting hung up in the snow...I'll see if I have any pictures. It would be pretty simple to build a mount and blade like the Terra blade. It works great on soft or freshly dumped dirt/gravel but does not do very well on a packed driveway (that is rocky) like mine. It fetches up on rocks and lifts the rear enough to loose traction.
I can get pictures of it off the tractor and some measurements if you're interested.


Yeah some pictures and dimensions would be awesome!
Start a thread for that, like LP said for that a lot of people would appreciate that. I'm sure they suggest ballist weights with the on. Maybe someone else knows or has a manual for it, I haven't seen one in the manual section.
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Posted February 10, 2016 - 05:45 PM

I haven't found a manual for it yet either. I have the weight box from the loader on back now and wheel weights...I haven't done much grading with the box yet but the wheel weights didn't help much.

I have cylinder rebuild kits for the loader coming soon, when I do those I'll switch the mounting to the front.

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Posted February 10, 2016 - 07:09 PM

I may have missed it,but do you have the rear tires loaded,I know on my HT-20 with the loader I had to do it,even then sometimes it's still a little light in the rearend

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Posted February 11, 2016 - 08:28 AM

I have not filled my tires, I will probably try it this summer. What did you fill your tires with?

I am thinking about making a different "weight box" that would basically be a rod to hand dumbbell weights off. It would make it easier taking them on and off and not stick off the rear as far as the Johnson loader weight box.
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Posted February 11, 2016 - 02:30 PM

I use window washer fluid,takes about 10 gallons ea rear wheel (26×12×12),it's about the cheapest way to go,there are alot of other products out there,Old Buzzard can you chime in on this,I know you have luck with another product

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Posted February 11, 2016 - 04:45 PM

Well, now that you mention it... :rolling:

 

I am a firm believer in Rim Guard.

 

It's a beet juice derivative, and it has a number of advantages over all of the other fluids being used.

 

It's non-toxic, non-corrosive, and environmentally friendly.

 

It weighs @ 11 lb/gal vs. 8 lb/gal for the water based fluids, so you get more weight per tire.

 

That means that with your 20D, you will get 80 lb/tire with anti-freeze, www fluid, etc. while you will get 110 lb/tire with Rim Guard. That extra 30 lb/tire will make a big difference. 

 

The disadvantage is the cost, and finding a dealer that carries it.

 

As for the cost, I feel that the other advantages make that worthwhile and since it's just a one time thing, not all that important.

 

To find a dealer you need to call them.  They actually prefer that you to call for a location.

 

Here's their web site: http://www.rimguard.biz/

 

ETA:  IF you do go with Rim Guard, it's vital that you change your valve stems to metal ones. 


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Posted February 11, 2016 - 04:47 PM

I use window washer fluid,takes about 5 gallons ea rear wheel (26×12×12),it's about the cheapest way to go,there are alot of other products out there,Old Buzzard can you chime in on this,I know you have luck with another product

 

You only put 5 gal in your tires?

 

A 26x12-12 should hold 10 gal. when it's filled to 75%, which is generally filling it to the valve stem when the stem is at the 12:00 position.


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