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#1 bbuckler OFFLINE  

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Posted September 16, 2015 - 11:09 AM

I tried discing and pulling a log across it and then discing again but I still have hard clumps. Any tips ?



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Posted September 16, 2015 - 11:12 AM

Do you have a tiller?
Sounds like clay. Maybe you plowed a little deep?
Anyways, try tilling it and then in the spring, just disc it good.

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Posted September 16, 2015 - 11:17 AM

This is for my fall garden but I think I did plow to deep. Im picking up a cub cadet in a couple of weeks and my uncle already has a tiller for one. ImageUploadedByTapatalk1442420236.329860.jpg

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Posted September 16, 2015 - 12:17 PM

  Our black dirt does the same thing. The tiller suggestion is the best remedy that I have found. Next time wait until the soil is not so wet before turning it and you won't have that problem.

  I used a digger on our garden a day or two after getting 3 inches of rain. DUMB!  :wallbanging:

The garden looked like it was full of bowling balls and when the clumps dried they were almost as hard. Busted them up as best I could with a drag and then used the Cub Cadet with a tiller and that did a very nice job. 


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Posted September 16, 2015 - 12:24 PM

Drag a heavy roller or a spike tooth harrow over it. Or a combination of disks, roller or harrow. Trouble with that is , the more you drive on it, more compact it gets. Noel

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Posted September 16, 2015 - 12:45 PM

Our black dirt does the same thing. The tiller suggestion is the best remedy that I have found. Next time wait until the soil is not so wet before turning it and you won't have that problem.
I used a digger on our garden a day or two after getting 3 inches of rain. DUMB! :wallbanging:
The garden looked like it was full of bowling balls and when the clumps dried they were almost as hard. Busted them up as best I could with a drag and then used the Cub Cadet with a tiller and that did a very nice job.

Been no rain for 2 months
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Posted September 16, 2015 - 02:30 PM

Our garden was terrible for clumps.  Clay soil that if plowed ot tilled to wet would make clumps that would still be hard clumps all summer. Like rocks.  Finally, after adding lots of organic matter over a few years and also pelletized lime, it is much better now.  I had read about the pelletized lime and couldn't believe the difference after the first year applying it.


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Posted September 16, 2015 - 02:47 PM

This was packed down by horse for 30 years
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Posted September 16, 2015 - 06:45 PM

This was packed down by horse for 30 years


That would do it! The pounds per square inch on a horses hooves is very high.
If your soil is like mine it can crust on top and seal the moisture in and can be wet a few inches down and baked like a brick on the surface.
However two years ago it was so dry I had to fill holes with water and muck it out to sett posts 3 ft deep.
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Posted September 17, 2015 - 08:13 AM

Wait till next spring and let it freeze out this winter.  Looks to me like your soil need moisture, especially since you said it hasn't rained in2 months.  Is there any reason you need to work the ground now?  If not, wait till it will work decent and plow it this fall.  Next spring pull a disc over it, then till and plant.  Different soil work different.



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Posted September 17, 2015 - 09:01 AM

Well I guess I will leave it alone I'm moving in 5 months.



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Posted September 18, 2015 - 08:34 PM

Dose it freeze in your area? You are wanting to plant a fall crop, it must not freeze there. We have had this discussion before about fall planting. I find it so weird that I am plowing under for the next year, and you are plowing for the next crop in the fall. So , when would harvest time be for a fall planting crop ?? Noel

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Posted September 18, 2015 - 10:39 PM

Dose it freeze in your area? You are wanting to plant a fall crop, it must not freeze there. We have had this discussion before about fall planting. I find it so weird that I am plowing under for the next year, and you are plowing for the next crop in the fall. So , when would harvest time be for a fall planting crop ?? Noel

Usually don't freeze until late December and then it can be 30 degrees one day and 70 the next 


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Posted September 22, 2015 - 02:33 AM

This was packed down by horse for 30 years

To cure that, you need to run a deep (2 feet) ripper through it, then let it set overwinter.


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Posted September 28, 2015 - 11:21 PM

I agree. Hit it with a subsoiler. Then I would plant a cover crop.




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