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What`s the brawniest Cub Cadet ?


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#1 Meteor149 OFFLINE  

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Posted September 09, 2015 - 11:13 AM

I`ve been around Cub Cadets and all kinds of tractors since I was a kid but I`ve learned a LOT more about them in recent years. I love my 149, it`s a great "little big tractor". It can do surprising work for it`s small size and modest (by todays standards) engine. That said I`ve been looking into getting the 149 a big brother for larger jobs and possibly a FEL. I know the Super Garden Tractors culminating with the mighty 982 are often regarded as the kings of the Cub Cadet world but I wonder if we`re really being fair to the MTD manufactured later tractors? Some use the same trans as the 982 but have more horsepower. AFAIK know only the latest MTD made 982s (`83+) had fine spline 1" heat treated axles. In 1990 they went to much bigger 30mm/1 3/16" fine spline axles and bigger needle axle bearings. Some of the later ones Cubs also have features like a diff lock that could really come in handy.

So with no restriction as to manufacturer and discounting mid sized tractors, what is the brawniest traditional garden tractor Cub Cadet? Maybe a 2284 with 22hp, 2 piece diff and 30mm fine spline axles? Of course that one doesn`t have a diff lock... What do you guys think?


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Posted September 09, 2015 - 01:56 PM

Been looking for a 1772 Diesel or equivalent for a while.My uncle has a 1872 and it's nice but very hungry.The opposed twin Kohlers suck up fuel like no body's business.

 

 

Went to look at a couple diesel supers over the past years and they're either out of my price range or parts tractors.

My neighbor has a 169.My old 149 was good but the 169 is a totally different animal.Might be only 2hp difference but torque is what it takes to run the pump efficiently.+ 5ft lbs and 2hp difference in stock forum.

 

K321 (14hp) peak torque is 23.5ft lbs @2400rpm

K341 (16hp) peak torque is 28.25ft lbs @ 2600rpm

 

To bad they never made a Super with a Standard tranny and a Diesel.That would be the one to have if you could keep the gears together. Hydros are OK but the pumps rob 30%+/- of the total HP.


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Posted September 09, 2015 - 06:28 PM

This one LOL

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Posted September 09, 2015 - 06:56 PM

Does that have the optional Suzuki Hayabusa engine?


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Posted September 09, 2015 - 07:15 PM

kohler m 18



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Posted September 09, 2015 - 07:15 PM

Hydros take horsepower, but they multiply torque and that's what does the work.
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Posted September 09, 2015 - 08:10 PM

This one LOL

Damn! that's a beast!


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Posted September 09, 2015 - 08:54 PM

It started out in life as a red 582, The briggs blew up. And I put on a m18. Then over the years I changed the body to a newer tractor. It has the 30 mm axles, and the the better diff.
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Posted September 09, 2015 - 09:19 PM

Eric, I'd love to have a 169 but I never see them for sale, hence the 149. :)

Chris,not what I mean of course but the upgraded MTD diff and axles make a good point.

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Posted September 09, 2015 - 11:43 PM

There's 1 near Pittsburgh for $375 with deck. Not sure of it's running condition though the Add is pretty vague.

 

Let me see if I can find the add again.

 

 

 

Found it Price went up to $400

 

http://pittsburgh.cr...5192968671.html


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Posted September 10, 2015 - 11:26 PM

That looks like a good deal, especially with the two parts tractors. When the 14hp Kohler in my 149 gets tired I may just repower it with a 16hp, since the tractors are the same otherwise. That said a 169 is just a little guy compared to the Supers, but what's the biggest and baddest of the super gt Cub Cadets? So far the 2284 looks hard to beat...

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Posted September 11, 2015 - 07:32 PM

I look the 2284 up on tractor data to see what you were talking about. It was only made for three years from '94 - '97. It has the Kohler CH22 engine.

 

Then I looked to see what the 2015 amounted to. >tsk< I can see where the world is going to. It was all about ergonomic design high back seats and Bluetooth. And about as ugly as a Ford one ton. I never heard of a Kohler 7000 engine before.



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Posted September 11, 2015 - 08:01 PM

I vote for the 2072.

I never heard of a Kohler 7000 engine before.


They put a different name on the cheap Courage engines. It seems Craptacular was already taken or didn't make the cut.
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Posted September 12, 2015 - 11:02 AM

The beastiest of the "traditional" style garden tractors would be a 1782.  That would be the last series of the good super garden tractors and a diesel to boot.


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Posted September 12, 2015 - 03:54 PM

The 2072 looks like a real contender but I'm not sure it quite tops the list. It's still good the one piece cast iron diff (granted the HD one) and 1" axles. I think it would still have the stronger helical cut ring and pinion. Does it have a cast iron transaxle, I wonder? It's 2hp less than the 2284. Still an impressive GT though.

1782 is a great candidate too. I suspect the diesel is much better on fuel than a big Kohler but it's only 17hp. Anyone know the torque rating? It might more than makeup for the horsepower.




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