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Thinking of buying JOHN DEERE 316 how much should i pay?

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#1 nlpoole OFFLINE  

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Posted September 06, 2015 - 02:39 PM

Hey guys!

 

Im thinking of buying a John Deere 316, it comes with a snow blower and mower deck. The mower deck has all new spindles,blades and belts. It does have 2 hydro leavers 4 out puts on the front. It has a 3 point hitch. It not in the best condition, you can tell who ever re-painted it did a bad job along with no head lights. Any how im just wondering how much i should be paying for this unit?? They are asking $1800 OBO at my local dealer. any ideas price wise would be great! thanks! :thumbs:


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Posted September 06, 2015 - 02:40 PM

For $1,800, it should nearly be perfect.
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Posted September 06, 2015 - 03:23 PM

Thats higher than a wood peckers hole.


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Posted September 06, 2015 - 03:36 PM

That's fairly high. Noel.
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Posted September 06, 2015 - 03:39 PM

That's fairly high. Noel.

 

 

Thats higher than a wood peckers hole.

 

 

For $1,800, it should nearly be perfect.

what do you guys think would be a fair price??



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Posted September 06, 2015 - 03:42 PM

Any pictures ? Noel.

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Posted September 06, 2015 - 04:20 PM

Any pictures ? Noel.

yes i do

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Posted September 06, 2015 - 04:22 PM

When you look at anything Green, you know your going to pay a lot for the paint.  IH is not any better.  In this area a grand would be tops in decent shape and everything working one  it.  Prices vary a lot across the country.  Basically, it is worth what ever one is willing to pay.


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Posted September 06, 2015 - 05:34 PM

You had said a 316, pictures are showing a 317. Early 317s had motor trouble. I would check to see if the engine is a series 2 kohler engine, if not, it may not be worth buying. Quite a difference between a 316 engine and a 317 engine. And it dose not look to be in very good shape. I would not pay 1800 for it. Depending on the engine and how well it operates, you sort of have to figure out how bad you want it , and what your willing to pay. Blower is not a John Deere, I would say. Make sure it will hook up and work. Just some thoughts, I'm not an expert, Noel.
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Posted April 05, 2016 - 08:15 AM

I am restoring a 317 that I have repowered with a Kohler Magnum 18.  The tractor will be in very good shape and the mower deck is also very good.  I cannot expect it to be worth any more than $1000 when finished.  If the tractor you are looking at still has the old Kohler KT17 (especially the series 1), even with the snow thrower it wouldn't usually get more than $700 to 800 (in very good shape) from the ads I have seen lately.  The dealer is really hoping to make a large profit on that unit!


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Posted April 05, 2016 - 09:29 AM

Ok, let's get some facts straight about a 316 and which one it is matters...

 

The first 316 was a one year only model made in 1978 and essentially a relabeled 300.  Info in quotes from wfmachines.com

Capable of using many of the same attachments as the JD 140, the 300 series of John Deere garden tractors began production with the 1975 model year. In that year, the hydrostatic model 300 was introduced, replacing the John Deere 140 and its seven-year production run. Although it shared many components from the 140, the 300 was upgraded to a 16HP Kohler K-series engine and had numerous styling changes. Major changes included a more squared off hood with integral headlights, engine side panels and a black plastic instrument panel. Realizing the liability of mounting a metal gas tank under the hood next to the battery, the model 300 had a plastic gas tank relocated under the rear fender pan with an increased capacity of 4.5 gallons. The John Deere 300 came equipped standard with a two-spool hydraulic lift system, a departure from the single or three-spool system available on the model 140. The charge pump and differential were largely unchanged from the 140, with the charge pump being manufactured by Sundstrand and the differential assembly by Dana. Individual rear wheel brakes also came standard on the model 300. Notably absent on the left side of the tractor was the clutch disconnect/ neutral return pedal found on the model 140. Identical to the model 300, the model 316 (Kohler powered) was manufactured during 1978 only. This particular model is often confused with the later series model 316, which was produced from 1984-1992. Being distinctly different tractors, there are few similarities between the early and late versions of the model 316. Manufactured briefly from 1977 to 1978, the model 312 provided a basic, no frills 300 series tractor with 12 HP Kohler engine, no engine side panels, no ammeter, H1 hydraulics, narrower rear tires, and a single brake pedal for both rear wheels. Headlights were an option on the 312.

 

 

The later 316 is an entirely different beast

In 1984, the 318 was joined by its little brother the 316. Basically the same tractor as the 318, but without power steering and having only 1 spool of hydraulics. In 1986 the 330 joined the team, Deere’s first diesel powered Lawn and Garden tractor. And in 1988, the 330 was replaced by the 332, a diesel and the 322 was added with a 3 cylinder gasoline engine. The 330, 332, and 322 were all liquid cooled and the engines were sourced from Yanmar, the supplier of John Deere’s compact tractor line since 1979.

During the reign of the 318, Deere produced its 1 millionth Lawn and Garden tractor, and the 318 outsold any of the other models. It remains a very sought after tractor, with resale values remaining very high.

 

 

From the pics I would call this the early 316 - dual remotes are the key.

Things that would catch my attention on this machine include:

- 3 point hitch

- 47 deck (hopefully solid)

- Possible 2 stage snow blower

 

Things that make me ask questions:

- wrong hood (minor but still catches my attention)
- snow blower is NOT a Deere 49 single stage (In good condition they sell for $400-600 in my part of the world)

- holes drilled in the side panels

 

As for value, the price mentioned is too high in my book from what I can see.  


Edited by Trav1s, April 05, 2016 - 10:09 AM.

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Posted April 05, 2016 - 10:31 AM

There is a late 316 locally with the 18 h.p. Onan, in great shape, he's asking $1000 OBO. Granted, it's single spool but has the bigger deck and single hydraulic front blade.



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Posted April 06, 2016 - 08:29 PM

The 316 with the Onan is a whole different beast from the early 300 closed frame style tractors.  For that kind of money, one can find the better 318 and gain 2 spool hyd and power steering.  I gave 800 for my 318, just under 900 hours on the Onan P218 engine. P series have electronic ignition, B series have points.  Do not be scared of the Onan engine, Kohler parts are right up there with Onan parts.  And the aftermarket is slowly catching up on Onan parts now that Cummins released the rights to them a couple years ago.  Mike



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Posted April 06, 2016 - 09:11 PM

I have a 78 316 that I got with a 49 blower, 48 deck, Brinly hitch with a 10" plow and the curved toothed cultivator. I paid $300 for the whole kit. The tractor set for about ten years in a shed and the Brinly attachments were in sad shape. $1800 is way too much for the tractor you are looking at even with the three point. For that price you could get anything from a 318 up to a 420 in usable condition. If you tried to sell one in mint condition you would be lucky to even get half of what they are asking for that tractor. Granted they are a good tractor, I love mine, but they a smoking some pretty serious dope if they are asking that much.
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Posted April 07, 2016 - 10:14 AM

There's a 420 here that needs a seat for $1100.







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