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#1 coinman66 OFFLINE  

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Posted August 29, 2015 - 07:09 AM

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm terrible at electrical issues. Do I need to jump the seat safety switch wires like my pic in order to get spark at the plug? Or does this have nothing to do with a non sparking plug? Put new ignition, points, wire harness and solenoid in. I'm getting power to coil using a test light. I'm stumped. Engine turns over, but no spark at the plug. New plug too.
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Posted August 29, 2015 - 07:12 AM

I don't know anything about JD, but most seat switches close the circuit. Like you have done.



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Posted August 29, 2015 - 07:38 AM

I don't know anything about JD, but most seat switches close the circuit. Like you have done.


So u think, if I jump it like my pic shows, I should have spark at the plug? I haven't tried this yet, just getting opinions.

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Posted August 29, 2015 - 07:42 AM

So u think, if I jump it like my pic shows, I should have spark at the plug? I haven't tried this yet, just getting opinions.

I am thinking your trouble might be in another spot.



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Posted August 29, 2015 - 08:16 AM

That seat switch is open with no weight and closed with weight on it.  Your jumper will work.  If the engine cranks the problem is in another place as the safety switch will prevent the engine from cranking over.  


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Posted August 29, 2015 - 08:17 AM


Could be a bad coil or plug wire.

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Posted August 29, 2015 - 08:33 AM

Could be a bad coil or plug wire.


The coil is off a working Cub Cadet 123. So I assume it would work? I will look at plug wire. Any way to check coil for sure? I tested it with test light and it had power on both sides.

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Posted August 29, 2015 - 08:35 AM

That seat switch is open with no weight and closed with weight on it. Your jumper will work. If the engine cranks the problem is in another place as the safety switch will prevent the engine from cranking over.


I have no seat or safety switch at this time. So hoping jumping the safety switch wires will work?

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Posted August 29, 2015 - 09:13 AM

I have no seat or safety switch at this time. So hoping jumping the safety switch wires will work?

 

If the engine cranks then the safety switch has been successfully bypassed.  If it does not crank, then the jumper in the pic does not complete the circuit.  

I would say you likely have another wiring problem that is playing into this.  

 

I did some google searching and without the serial of your tractor I cannot get the exact wiring schematic that you might need.  Maybe one of the 4 I have attached will help you nail down the problem. Serial number is essential when troubleshooting these machines as Deere did many rolling changes along the production run.

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Posted August 29, 2015 - 09:23 AM

If the engine cranks then the safety switch has been successfully bypassed. If it does not crank, then the jumper in the pic does not complete the circuit.

I would say you likely have another wiring problem that is playing into this.

I did some google searching and without the serial of your tractor I cannot get the exact wiring schematic that you might need. Maybe one of the 4 I have attached will help you nail down the problem. Serial number is essential when troubleshooting these machines as Deere did many rolling changes along the production run.



Yes, engine cranks. 81923 serial number. I have a new wiring harness in it. 99.9% sure it's right. New ignition switch, breaker points, solenoid. I think I need to check that plug wire? And maybe try a new condenser?

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Posted August 29, 2015 - 09:28 AM

Heck all I need is a new plug wire, coil and condenser and everything electrical except voltage regulator will be new lol.




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