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Wheel Horse 308-8 with Kohler 8M-ES Engine swap

8m-es to new engine

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#1 rhoisy OFFLINE  

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Posted August 27, 2015 - 03:17 PM

My Magnum 8 Electric Start broke the Rod Cap off and I was looking to replace the 8M-ES with another Kohler engine. The CH395 Looks close, but I was wondering what kind of problems I was going to get into trying to Engine Swap this old Kohler (retired) to the new 9.5 hp version. Has anyone done and engine swap and if so with what engine?


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Posted August 27, 2015 - 03:28 PM

Welcome aboard!  Another Georgia boy! :thumbs:  Swapping out engines all depends on the mounting points and linkages.  Wiring isn't usually a big issue.  What equipment are you wanting to swap engine on?


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Posted August 27, 2015 - 03:34 PM

I was looking at completely replacing the 8M-ES with a CH395-ES. So it would be a complete swap. I would put back the clutch and drive pullies. I just needed to know if anyone has swaped out a 8M-electric Start for another engine and how did that go?



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Posted August 27, 2015 - 03:37 PM

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Posted August 27, 2015 - 03:52 PM

Thanks for your service-USN Myself.



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Posted August 28, 2015 - 08:34 AM

It appears no one has an answer for me, so I will have to go with out help.



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Posted August 28, 2015 - 09:24 AM

Any of the K series engines will work as well.



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Posted August 28, 2015 - 09:30 AM

I'll bet most of the folks on here would rebuild the stock engine if possible, or replace with similar. A rebuild would be way cheaper than a new engine and take less time than figuring out all of the issues with squeezing something different in; mounting points, cutting the hood?, rewiring, possibly different cables. You haven't said which model of Wheel Horse you have. Does it have safety lock outs?



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Posted August 28, 2015 - 03:30 PM

I have a 308-8 Wheel Horse with a M8S that has been rebuilt once "professionally" (think it would have been better if I had done it myself, but I was not going to be home for several months and the wife thought she wanted to mow the grass.) Cost me more in parts that the new Kohler. Got a guy now that says he will give me all the engine numbers that will direct replace my 8M. Thanks guys for all you help, but I think I'm closing in on the solution. My Wheel Horse is a 1986 36" rear discharge and I plan to keep using it for another 30 years, or death - which ever comes first. If you want, when I get it going again, I'll take pics and send in the required changes.



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Posted August 28, 2015 - 03:51 PM

Thanks for your response. It sounds like you have it worked out. There might be some people on here that might be interested in that replacement list if you care to share.



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Posted August 30, 2015 - 09:24 AM

I don't know what that second number engine is???  Magnum I get, but nothing else?  I just bought this same model tractor at show and fella put in a V-twin magnum. Had to use the engine mount plate, not direct to frame and drilled new holes in that plate. These twins have a small foot print compared to kohlers and others. I'm going to use engine in diff tractor, and might try to put one back in the Horse. Thinking of a big Briggs, I have several and have never seen one on a horse. Maybe it is too big for hood, don't know yet. Mine is the 8spd trans, like that rear, but rest is manual lift and other not so featured things. Must have been the economy line for them? 



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Posted August 30, 2015 - 12:20 PM

I don't know what that second number engine is???

GL, the CH395 is the Command Pro OHV 9.5 hp slant cylinder engine.






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