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#1 Redbeardlawn OFFLINE  

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Posted August 19, 2015 - 09:31 PM

My name is Ryan, new to gt talk. Just bought a jd 314 at a huge auction only paid 50 bucks for it. I had been in the sun all day and was waiting for the right deal. It was the end of the day and I just wanted to go home with some type of lawn tractor. I wasn't even paying much attention but I saw a decent looking jd missing a mower deck so I decide to bid. The bid stalls at 50. I think "awesome!!" So I load her up, along with a trailer and truck bed full of other junk, and head home. When I start the process of getting this girl mobile, I discover some things. Hole in bottom rear corner of gas tank (fixed now), no ignition switch (new installed now), no voltage regulator (new installed now), no battery (new battery now). So with everything necessary installed I discover issues. I have no spark and no fuel. The motor will turn over by key, but no spark and no fuel in cylinder bore. I have gone over wiring to the best of my ability, working with google images wiring diagram lol. I have had this 314 for 3 days. As she sits, I have the vent sides off, the whole rear fender pan off, new ignition switch, new pto switch, patched fuel tank, new points kit (don't think I needed), new plug. I plan to get this thing running and paint it. What is my next step guys? I need to figure out my problems with ignition. Thank you
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Posted August 19, 2015 - 10:11 PM

Welcome to the forum. Not familiar with JD but some one will be along to help. Did you try getting the manual for it from the manual section? Make sure the ignition switch is the right one for it. Good luck with it and post a picture of it. Again welcome.                                                                                  Roger


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Posted August 19, 2015 - 10:14 PM

First welcome to GTT

 

Have you removed the gas shut off valve from the tank?

There should be a very fine screen in the shut off valve,  it could be plugged.

Remove the screen and put a gas line filter some place in the gas line and replace the shut off valve.

Also check and clean or replace the gas line.

 

for the spark is there a capacitor connected to the negative side of the coil.

The other wire connected to the negative side of the coil goes to the points.

 

make sure the electric PTO switch is off,  it is part of the safety switch that goes to the starter.

see if you can get 12 volts to the coil from the starter switch.  If you can need you should check the wiring with an ohm meter.

You might have a bad PTO switch. 

 

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also check the safety switch #20 - it can be bad, too.

 

I hope this help.

 

Other will be along to help


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Posted August 19, 2015 - 10:33 PM

Thank you for the replies so far guys. I have not checked shut off valve, but I will. My ignition is from jd parts store in town. I have a wire from points going to positive side of coil, wire from condenser to positive side of coil. From neg side of coil I have a plug that plugs into regulator, also a wire from neg side of coils the runs under the motor and plugs into I believe the seat safety switch and another wire (unplugged). The wiring is strange but it was this way when I started and looks to have been wired this way on purpose.
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Posted August 19, 2015 - 10:35 PM

Deere does not allow their manuals to be down loaded for free.

You can try the following site.

 

http://www.wfmfiles....wnload/manuals/

 

down load the 140.zip file.  The 140 manual should help you

 

good luck


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Posted August 19, 2015 - 10:40 PM

note both the capacitor and wire to the point should be on the negative side of the coil.

 

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also download the Kohler manual from GTT Manual section

 

http://gardentractor...service-manual/


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Posted August 19, 2015 - 10:53 PM

Lyall, could not open 140.zip file. so switch wires to neg side of coil is easy enough. What is going to the pos side of coil? The plug from regulator? I need power to coil correct?

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Posted August 19, 2015 - 11:08 PM

to open and extract a zip file - do a web search on "How to open a zip file"

That should help you open and extract the zip file.

 

a wire from the starter switch should go to the positive side of the coil.  Look at the picture in the above post closer.

on the negative side of the coil should be two wires - one goes to the points and the other to the condenser.


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Posted August 19, 2015 - 11:25 PM

this is the wiring diagram from a 140 - which should be close to your wiring

 

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Posted August 19, 2015 - 11:45 PM

Found a way to open zip file on my phone. What a huge help having these diagrams! Thank you! Looks like this coil had been wired backwards. on the diagram is shows pink wire from starter switch mating with 3 plug connector that plugs into regulator and connects to stator. Is this correct or is the pink wire from starter switch separate?
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Posted August 20, 2015 - 12:05 AM

Welcome to GTT. Post some pics. Good Luck, Rick



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Posted August 20, 2015 - 03:57 AM

:welcometogttalk: , and :wewantpics:



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Posted August 20, 2015 - 12:38 PM

Not much work on the tractor or anything for that matter, been raining and no room in the garage to work haha. How do I post pics on here?

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Posted August 20, 2015 - 01:15 PM

If you click on more reply options you get a new box with a browse option at the bottom or you can link to an outside photo account.

Some old machines use a wire off the key switch to positive on the coil.

Another way to check for fire is turn the key on and open/close the points with a screwdriver, see if the points spark, good luck 



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Posted August 20, 2015 - 01:17 PM

to post picture/s  click on the "More Reply Options"

To attach files click on the j"Browse..." button and select the file you want to attach.

This uploads the file.  Then click on "Attach This File"

The attached file is now attached to the post, but it will be at the bottom of the post.

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