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#1 Patriot1 OFFLINE  

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Posted July 31, 2015 - 12:34 PM

I picked this this tractor up last summer at an auction for $80. It was pretty much set up the way it is... just gave it a tune up and freshened up a few other things. My family has really gotten into garden tractor pulling... even built our own boat. I am trying to learn what I can about this tractor as I am sure one day I will break something or maybe even try to get a little extra power out of it! I took the serial numbers of the motor and checked with a couple of places and they told me it was a 16hp briggs. However, ive been looking at a lot of pictures and havent seen one that looked like mine in a 16hp, only a 14hp. The tractor has all been painted over and have found no markings. It may even be a gilson. If anybody has any info that could help, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks!

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Posted July 31, 2015 - 02:20 PM

Welcome to GTT. It looks like a Gilson to me but I am not an expert. Check in our Manuals Section(3 free downloads per day). Good Luck, Rick


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Posted July 31, 2015 - 03:59 PM

:welcometogttalk:


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Posted July 31, 2015 - 07:55 PM

Actually does look like a gilson,but I'm not an expert either. Besides the Busch can made me shivver and couldn't see straight after that... Hahahaha


oh and WELCOME TO GTT!
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Posted July 31, 2015 - 09:23 PM

It is an "s" series Gilson built late 60's on into 70's. I see the model/serial tag is missing. About the only way now is if the Briggs has the original sheet metal stamped numbers. Gene
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Posted August 01, 2015 - 07:25 AM

Welcome aboard cool tractor don't many Gilson pullers


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Posted August 02, 2015 - 06:38 PM

Thanks for the advice and the weclcomes ya'll!

I was hoping to maybe run into somebody with tbe exact same tractor that could fill me all in on the info and tips and tricks.... but I know, shot in the dark. Maybe someday!

And if anyone knows or has a picture of what the original looks like, id like to paint it or get it looking close to the original.

Edited by Patriot1, August 02, 2015 - 06:59 PM.


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Posted August 02, 2015 - 10:07 PM

And if anyone knows or has a picture of what the original looks like, id like to paint it or get it looking close to the original.


Might try the gallery section. A long shot but one in original condition may be there
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Posted August 03, 2015 - 08:16 AM

That is a Montgomery Ward 16 or Gilson S16.  I have two M/W 16 versions, both of mine are '74 models with full fenders/running boards.  Yours with the short fenders and foot plates is probably '73 or so.  I do not know when the 16 came out.  They are stout built tractors, but parts are a problem, Gilson was absorbed by Lawn Boy, which was absorbed by Toro.  Both of mine are worker tractors.

 

They use a 16hp Briggs engine and a Peerless 2300 transaxle.  I don't see them pulling often as the 16 Briggs does not lend itself well to mods and a lot of people do not like the belt drive.  One thing you may want to do for pulling, the pulley on the trans has a spring in it to absorb shock and vibration, as they are kind of a rough operating tractor to use.  I would recommend putting a solid pulley on as the torsion spring often breaks under high stress.


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Posted August 03, 2015 - 01:46 PM

That is a Montgomery Ward 16 or Gilson S16.  I have two M/W 16 versions, both of mine are '74 models with full fenders/running boards.  Yours with the short fenders and foot plates is probably '73 or so.  I do not know when the 16 came out.  They are stout built tractors, but parts are a problem, Gilson was absorbed by Lawn Boy, which was absorbed by Toro.  Both of mine are worker tractors.
 
They use a 16hp Briggs engine and a Peerless 2300 transaxle.  I don't see them pulling often as the 16 Briggs does not lend itself well to mods and a lot of people do not like the belt drive.  One thing you may want to do for pulling, the pulley on the trans has a spring in it to absorb shock and vibration, as they are kind of a rough operating tractor to use.  I would recommend putting a solid pulley on as the torsion spring often breaks under high stress.



Thatis very helpful information. I always thought it was a 14 hp because all the images I saw that had the foot rests up front were 14hp. But I spanked my cousins mildly built 14hp cub and figured it had to be a 16 hp.





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