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1969 Ford 4x4 engine pictures, update.

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#16 toppop52 OFFLINE  

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Posted July 10, 2015 - 06:27 AM

360 is by far the more likely since it is a heavy duty truck engine based on the sticker and the fact that it's an FE, about 5 times as many 360's were installed as 390's. Of course since it's a swap no way to know without info from the block it's self.

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Posted July 10, 2015 - 08:31 AM

Also never seen a pre 1975 F series 4X4 with factory power steering.  It was available, just very rare. Seen many adapted to p.s. 


It sure would be fun to steer if it didn't have power steering, that's a lot of weight hanging over the front.

I have a F600 dump truck (rock style bed not grain bed) and it has no power steering. I was hauling a load of broken concrete and it was all I could do to steer that old thing. My brother was riding with me and when I stopped I couldn't turn the wheel. So my brother pulled on one side of the steering wheel while I pushed on the other side and we finally got it turned enough to get going. The important thing to remember is, always steer while you are moving!.

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Posted July 10, 2015 - 09:55 AM

5 bolt valve covers would mean it's a FE block, another dead giveaway is the exhaust manifolds. I can't tell from the pics, but part of the intake on a FE will be UNDER the rocker covers.
If it is indeed what you have is a FE, they produced from 1958-76 in the following, 332,352,360,361,390,406,410,427,428.
The 427 and 460 have SEVEN valve cover bolts.
351 Cleveland and the 400 have 8 valve cover bolts
289,302,351 Windsor have 6 valve cover bolts. A 351 Windsor will have a casting on the front of the Block the sticks out forward by the dizzy while 289,302 won't
My money is on a 352 or 390!!!

1974 rules out 352. That is definately not a small block. That rules out 302 or 351 Windsor
I think '74 was the last 390. Also never seen a pre 1975 F series 4X4 with factory power steering. It was available, just very rare. Seen many adapted to p.s.
That more modern master cylinder is for front disk brakes, not drum brakes.

351 Cleveland was a 1971 ONLY engine and scarce as hens teeth. most people call a 351 Modified a Cleveland.

So I'd guess 351 Modified since the engine is a 1974

Kinda looks like that one has been on fire at some point. :(

Before he passed I would have shown my dad those pics and would have been able to give the same knowledgeable answers. I just wish I had learned a lot more before I lost him at such a young age ( I was 23). Kick myself every day for not having worked on our relationship more. I wasn't the best kid in the world and am living it now. Just hoping one or 2 of these Jr members just work on listening and learning from their elders and show you love them and don't let it go because you may never have tomorrow to say "I love you"

Edited by Marty'70, July 10, 2015 - 09:58 AM.

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Posted July 10, 2015 - 10:29 AM

Sorry for your loss, I know how you feel. I lost my biological Father 15 years ago to suicide. However, I have always tinkered with stuff, and had a stepfather, so I can kind of relate. Good luck on ur project!!! :) Cheers
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Posted July 10, 2015 - 11:27 AM

Sorry for your loss.  I think anyone of us who has lost someone wished we would of paid more attention to what they could of or tried to teach us.  But when you are younger, well, you don't think like that.  Lost my grandpa in Jan 1 of 2002.  Wish I would of paid more attention to the things he tried to teach me.

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Posted July 10, 2015 - 08:50 PM

Thanks for all your info. When I worked as a mechanic in the mid seventies, it was quite a job to figure out what engines were in Fords, now I see that there were a lot more than I knew of. Thru all the information my son and I have come up with, we think that it is a 360 FE with about 215 hp and about 375 ft/lb of torque. That should push some snow, I think. Noel
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