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#1 propane1 ONLINE  

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Posted July 09, 2015 - 04:54 PM

Some pictures of the engine in truck. Maybe some will know what size it is. Got her home today. Looks like it may need a clutch. Noel

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Posted July 09, 2015 - 05:01 PM

not real sure what a 429 looks like, but that looks like a 351 Cleveland to me.


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Posted July 09, 2015 - 05:22 PM

360,390 Fe or maybe 302
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Posted July 09, 2015 - 05:36 PM

All I can say is it is a ford engine!
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Posted July 09, 2015 - 05:46 PM

IIRC, it looks like a small block to me (289,302,351w) but it's been a long time since I had one.


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Posted July 09, 2015 - 05:59 PM

It's a 1974 according to that tag
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Posted July 09, 2015 - 06:16 PM

Yep, it's a '74 and it's a heavy duty truck motor, also according to the label.
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Posted July 09, 2015 - 06:17 PM

In that year Ford had a boat load of truck engines, in FE And 385 configurations.
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Posted July 09, 2015 - 06:20 PM

Looks like a 352 or 390 due to the exhaust manifold configuration.


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Posted July 09, 2015 - 06:32 PM

Try this:

 

http://www.fordifica...engineID-V8.htm


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Posted July 09, 2015 - 06:32 PM

1974 rules out 352.  That is definately not a small block.   That rules out 302 or 351 Windsor

I think '74 was the last 390.  Also never seen a pre 1975 F series 4X4 with factory power steering.  It was available, just very rare. Seen many adapted to p.s. 

That more modern master cylinder is for front disk brakes, not drum brakes.

 

351 Cleveland was a 1971 ONLY engine and scarce as hens teeth.  most people call a 351 Modified a Cleveland.

 

So I'd guess 351 Modified since the engine is a 1974

 

Kinda looks like that one has been on fire at some point.  :(


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Posted July 09, 2015 - 06:58 PM

5 bolt valve covers would mean it's a FE block, another dead giveaway is the exhaust manifolds. I can't tell from the pics, but part of the intake on a FE will be UNDER the rocker covers.
If it is indeed what you have is a FE, they produced from 1958-76 in the following, 332,352,360,361,390,406,410,427,428.

The 427 and 460 have SEVEN valve cover bolts.

351 Cleveland and the 400 have 8 valve cover bolts

289,302,351 Windsor have 6 valve cover bolts. A 351 Windsor will have a casting on the front of the Block the sticks out forward by the dizzy while 289,302 won't

My money is on a 352 or 390!!!

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Posted July 09, 2015 - 07:35 PM

FE engine for sure, intake is part of the head. most likely a 360 if in a lite duty truck. 390 if your lucky.

 

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Posted July 10, 2015 - 12:00 AM

AS said above it's a 360 or 390 ---If your doing a clutch job check the ring gear real close and replace if it looks worn and for sure replace the starter they are  notorious know for being crap.Changing them in the winter is never fun   


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Posted July 10, 2015 - 05:55 AM

360 or 390 for certain. Pic has glare in top left corner where engine CID would be listed on sticker. Can't make out what it says to tell which one.  Externally these 2 engines look identical.

 

 

On the 351 Cleveland they were made for more years than 1971, but weren't used in trucks, that was a "car only" engine.  Not saying someone couldnt swap one in along the line.... my brother did so in a '79, in place of a 300-inline 6.

 

and there are differences between a 351 Cleveland and a 351 M ("modified") heads interchange but you can't interchange trans between them, where you can with a 351 W (Windsor) and a 351C.

The 351M is kind of a "mix," has features of the Windsor series, the Clevelands and the trans bolt pattern of the 429/460. Motor mounts ("frame stands") are same as 302/351W. 


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