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Posted July 07, 2015 - 05:11 AM

Can you use the crank from a vertical engine in a horizontal engine? I have 2 CH 20s both have no output shafts... And I need one to have something to run the pto clutch.... ? So is this possible ? I hate to tear apart a good vertical engine only to find it will not work ?

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Posted July 07, 2015 - 06:03 AM

I haven't investigated the Kohler cranks. On the Briggs flat heads, all you had to do was have the excess machined to the horizontal length at the PTO end. Would be interesting to find out. This manual has the CH cranks in it.


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Posted July 07, 2015 - 06:59 AM

This Is a VERY Costly and touchy (I wasted about 400 bucks having a crank machined for a ch18 for it not to fit) subject as you say they have no outputs leads me to believe it's a walker spec kohler the difference is that some have thrust neadle bearings on the closure plate and the verticals run just plain bearings ( the thrust bearing is just the closure plate) make sure you look at the shoulders on the Pto side of the crankshaft if they are different it's a narrower crank wish I had pictures of my mistakes
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Posted July 07, 2015 - 07:03 AM

Thanks Kenny, that will work!
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Posted July 07, 2015 - 07:16 AM

This Is a VERY Costly and touchy (I wasted about 400 bucks having a crank machined for a ch18 for it not to fit) subject as you say they have no outputs leads me to believe it's a walker spec kohler the difference is that some have thrust neadle bearings on the closure plate and the verticals run just plain bearings ( the thrust bearing is just the closure plate) make sure you look at the shoulders on the Pto side of the crankshaft if they are different it's a narrower crank wish I had pictures of my mistakes

I spent some time investigating the B&S cranks. Also the blocks as I am using the vertical block, converting to horizontal. I don't have any of these CH Kohlers, so have no spec #'s to reference from. With the spec #'s you can find out which crank your engine had and what the one is you wish to rework to install. Plus I have a machinist friend down here that did mine REAL cheap (30 pack of Buds!).



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Posted July 07, 2015 - 07:19 AM

Thanks Kenny, that will work!

I noticed the pages were rather hard to read. I have that manual saved and may look into making it easier to see things.



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Posted July 07, 2015 - 07:38 AM

Here is the spec sticker for a kohler command with a 1 1/8 crank in a walker mower I recall this one having the thrust bearings on the Pto side of the crankshaft

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Posted July 07, 2015 - 07:51 AM

Here is the spec sticker for a kohler command with a 1 1/8 crank in a walker mower I recall this one having the thrust bearings on the Pto side of the crankshaft

So yours takes a 24 014 373-S crankshaft.



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Posted July 07, 2015 - 12:27 PM

Yes you can. I put a 30 cv in a 18 ch has .030 taller stroke.
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