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Posted July 04, 2015 - 10:55 PM

Finally getting back to the Swisher bucket mounting on the Snapper King. I went back to using the quick-tach  lift assembly instead of trying to make new frame mounts. Ended up wacking the orig bucket frame in three pieces, taking out the middle mostly and swivel/mount ends are on sides of the quick-tach frame. Does not lift high this way. I made a new lift link and everything with more adjustment holes and it doesn't change much. I can't get high enough to use dump feature. SO, with set-up now, it pivots in back farther, then just rests on front of hitch and I will be looking at a winch to raise it higher to be able to dump. Just not sure where to mount the winch yet and the tall tower probly needed to put a pulley wheel on to run cable over and down to the bucket frame. Would have to buy that yet and not sure how big I need to lift it. Would think the 2000 lb should be enough?? What think? Smaller even work??  Price goes down with smaller lift range.  I'll try to get a picture or two tomorrow when light out.



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Posted July 05, 2015 - 05:09 AM

GL, I have a 3000 lb. winch on the dump trailer I built and it will struggle with a load of damp soil on there. If it were me, I'd get a 5000 lb and know it will handle the job.


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Posted July 05, 2015 - 06:49 AM

I had a 2000lb winch on my Swisher bucket and it would easily lift any load it could hold, used a pulley block and it was Warn, but I got it at TSC for under $100. Just sold it yesterday.

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Posted July 05, 2015 - 09:03 AM

5000?  No room for that I don't believe!  I like other guy's size and pictures, heh!  See that center part with the vertical lift bar, is all gone on mine now. I have an angle iron accross the same space and bolted now, but soon welded on to the rest of outer lift frame. I'm wondering if I went big enough on the thickness of that. Thinking I might need to make inverted V shape lift bar and have it go out to those outside metals to lift and keep even. Maybe I should add flat stock along the angle iron I put on to beef it up too?  Pix to show what I mean coming. Thinking of mounting winch to the quick-tach frame, just ahead of the swivel pin, but not sure how to put on a tower to be pulling UP and still be able to take off for when I use the quick-tach frame for other items. Man, I like PLANS, and not having to figure out my own problems. :wallbanging:


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Posted July 05, 2015 - 10:11 AM

If you use a "snatch block"  your winch motor will work 1/2 as hard.


Edited by KC9KAS, July 05, 2015 - 03:38 PM.

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Posted July 05, 2015 - 11:50 AM

I you use a "snatch block"  your winch motor will work 1/2 as hard.


That's what I called a pulley block.

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Posted July 05, 2015 - 05:14 PM

Took pix. I have main arms shortened, maybe a mistake? I pushed it up with jack. Whole thing just seems flimsy. Was going to weld where big angle is, now not sure heavy enuf. The winch would pull off same metal but maybe wider two mount spots. Winch maybe off that bumper? Not much room below, like thought. Found the bucket hits front part at swivel now. Hoping little grind off will fix.

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Posted July 05, 2015 - 07:28 PM

Not sure if you can see what I did from this shot.image.jpg

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Posted July 05, 2015 - 07:37 PM

If you search "Randy Bucket Pics (Close Up)"

Started by toppop52, Apr 20, 2014 04:15 PM, you'll see my whole setup, may or may not help you, but it worked like a charm for me!

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Posted August 18, 2015 - 05:53 PM

Working on bucket again. Have winch now. Here's some ruff in ideas I've chosen. Winch on 5" channel, welded to bumper. Will need tower for pulley mount yet. Here's pix, bucket won't lift high, but enough to dump. Think button will be in thin area seen to right and below dash area.

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Posted August 19, 2015 - 06:29 AM

What you have will work like a Johnnie Bucket, but those Swisher buckets can easily be attached to reach 30"-36". Mine goes to 36" on the AYP Wizard. It'll work smoother, stronger and at a better speed with a pulley block . I have both mine at the hook locations.


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Posted August 19, 2015 - 12:10 PM

Toppop, I shortened my main arms as it stuck out way too far with that quick=tach part on there. That is why it doesn't lift as high. Might have been mistake maybe,  is done now. I plan to pull from each side with some sort of V-shape, metal or cable to put hook into. Will be on post with idler wheel above it.



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Posted August 19, 2015 - 09:39 PM

You know your needs and fabbing is very personal. It will certainly work for most projects, but honestly for lifting you can use that center attachment point, it will easily support anything you can put in the bucket and is already there. I'm not questioning your ideas just sharing my experience on the same unit. I'm sure however you do it you'll have a fine tool that saves a lot of work!

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Posted September 30, 2015 - 03:42 PM

Have winch on and wired up. There is NO delay in up/down button pushing as I thought. The 3 second delay is in turning the button On and OFF is all.  Now gotta get back to the construction of lift. Think I might go thru pulley on top of arm, down to bucket lift with another pulley there, and then hook cable back up on the arm again, just behind the pulley there. Just gotta get the snatch-blocks then.



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Posted October 11, 2015 - 10:40 AM

Messed with project some more. two pulleys, fast moving winch, arm is too much wiggle when lifting. Doesn't lift very high. NOT happy with it at all. I just might "can" the whole project. Worst thing I did was cut the arms shorter and that doesn't work. I took it all off and put in back corner of garage, wait till next spring to try again. I HATE fabbing and all it's problems you have to work out. Give me INSTRUCTIONS every time and I do well. :reading_the_manual:






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