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#1 wvbuzzmaster ONLINE  

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Posted June 26, 2015 - 08:40 PM

Is this possible. I'm going to look at a running Cub Cadet 108 to buy tomorrow morning and he has a chassis of a 109 and chassis of a 1250. The 1250 is stripped far enough it doesn't interest me at all, but the 109 has ag tires, the steering column, and the hub brakes (I supect??). If this is true can I swap the hub brake axles of a 109 hydro into a non hub brake gear drive 102? No hoods or engines on either the 109 or 1250 so would only buy the 109 if I can confirm it has hub brakes and that I can switch axles if needed into a gear 102. Thanks for quick responses.

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Posted June 26, 2015 - 09:05 PM

109 is a Wide frame Hydro 102 is a Narrow frame gear drive.

 

Odd numbers are Hydros and Even numbers are Gear drive on the older IH Cubs.

 

If you can get this shaft into the 102 it should work.Your going to have to drill 2 holes and weld the bushings fast to the frame.

 

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109 has this extra jack-shaft? to pull both brakes at once.The 102 just pulls directly off of the brake pedal rod.The calipers will bolt directly to the 102 rear but you will need to swap out the axles for the disks.


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Posted June 26, 2015 - 09:11 PM

Yes you can use a 109 or any other WF external brake axle in a internal brake cub like the 102 if you don't mind the axle disc brake rotors being on the axle . You could cut them off if you want to go thru that much work , but I've used a external disc brake axles on internal brake cubs without issue . They are both coarse spline axles and the same length .


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Posted June 26, 2015 - 09:14 PM

My goal is to have the external brakes on the 102. Sounds like the hard part of the transaxle is simple. Actuation may need to be custom if cant make a wide frame shaft work.

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Posted June 26, 2015 - 09:25 PM

You will need to pull the axles out of both 102 and 109 and swap them.then try to get the jack-shaft put into the 102.It's going to be a bit of work but it can be done.

 

If ya can get the shaft in it will work good.To bad creeper gears are going for top dollar again.There's a couple on Ebay for $200-$250.Just load all 4 tires and give it the beans it will pull your trailers. :rocker2: :rocker2:



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Posted June 26, 2015 - 09:27 PM

The Cub Cadet 102 will pull the trailers now. It just won't STOP them!! And sometimes it won't even stop itself...

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Posted June 26, 2015 - 11:10 PM

I was talking to Jeremy at the show and he said he preferred the internal to the external (disc) brakes.

Said he feltthe external ones weren't as good.

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Posted June 27, 2015 - 12:35 AM

I was talking to Jeremy at the show and he said he preferred the internal to the external (disc) brakes.

Said he felt the external ones weren't as good.

 

I am of the same opinion as this.  My 107 I JUST got done painting and restoring before plowday in April is already starting to not hold on hills when the brake is set!  My 100 on the other hand has been adjusted once since 2009 when I redid it and it will still hold on the hills well enough that I can slide the tires with the brakes on.


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Posted June 27, 2015 - 03:14 AM

I've had to adjust the 102's internal brake about 3 times in 6 months. It will hold for a while and then it fades or then it will work ever other time, or not at all. No rhyme or reason, no pattern, so done with internal.
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Posted June 27, 2015 - 04:42 AM

My external brakes on the 108 work great, had to adjust them when I first got it 15 years ago.


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Posted June 27, 2015 - 07:22 AM

I've had to adjust the 102's internal brake about 3 times in 6 months. It will hold for a while and then it fades or then it will work ever other time, or not at all. No rhyme or reason, no pattern, so done with internal.

 

I'm not doubting what you say Casey.  I've just had the best luck the other way.  Hopefully you get everything sorted out and have a good working tractor in the end.



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Posted June 27, 2015 - 01:18 PM

Well, the deal has been made and I have added a Cub Cadet 108 to the collection, and parts of a 109. I left the 1250 because it is already more parted than the 109. My next post will have the pics of the haul. But here is what will go down, and when you see the pics it will make sense.

The CC 108 is going to need a carb rebuild (floods out) and possibly points. Its steering column is only held on with one bolt, can't tell if the other bolt is broken off or if the threads are clear. It does run and drive but the shifter must have a broken pin in it (swivels). The rear of the fenders are beat beyond what I would attempt to fix and expect to get good enough. Aso the starter puller on the engine has play, so looks like I have to get that fixed.

The CC 109 has a good steering column, good fenders pan that has paint of equal condition to the 108, so those parts will most likely go on the 108, as well as a belly guard that is missing off the 108. The steering wheel is in good condition on the 109, so that will go on the CC 102 (I'm using a JD steering wheel on it now) the brakes on the 109 are good as well, and will swap to the 102 somehow. I need to get a manual trans brake linkages though.

Need a suggestion on the seat. It's comfy but its rough around the edges.

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Posted June 27, 2015 - 01:36 PM

109 is Late 1971 and 108 is early 1973
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