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got a new belt and still doesnt disengage


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#16 dennis55 OFFLINE  

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Posted June 24, 2015 - 08:50 PM

Sears still sells most of those parts.

 

http://www.searspart...1220/00003.html

 

Is this the part that you need?

http://www.searspart...47/1509200.html

thanks.. i cant find the part listed on there diagram.. its the part which holds both the clutch and brake links


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Posted June 25, 2015 - 03:25 AM

Here try this one.You can zoom in alot further on this one.

 

http://parts.sears.c....pdapp404pvert1

 

Looks like you need the main clutch/brake shaft.It's here.$22.24

 

http://parts.sears.c...=&prst=&shdMod=


Edited by EricFromPa, June 25, 2015 - 03:28 AM.


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Posted June 25, 2015 - 04:43 AM

The routing looks right, but do you have a guide to verify? Wrong side one one item and it will not work right.
Often a sticker under the tractor. Under Left footrest is a common spot.

If routing verified, I would agree with Doc, slop and belt issues.
Since you already have a belt, let's try fixing the slop. I have taken stuff off and welded hole shut, then redrilled the hole. Another method is to drill the hole round and put a bushing in there.
However you do it, OEM hole placement is a must.
If still not right, I would get it out where it can't cause any trouble (room enough to shut it down before hitting something) and disable the brake rod. (make sure it won't catch on anything or drop down into the ground, etc.). See if the clutching works OK with the rod out. (sign of brake adjusted to tight). This should not be an issue because of the spring most of these have on the brake linkage, but it's worth checking.
Next, I would replace the belt with Doc's
The only thing left would be something weird like major wear in the pullies that allow the belt to drop in to far and it's catching or the belt guides are worn enough that they aren't holding the belt where it needs to.

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Posted June 25, 2015 - 05:42 PM

this is the part which i believe might be causing my issue.. the hole which the clutch link rides in has gotten worn allowing the clutch not to react until its depressed 1/3 down

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Posted June 25, 2015 - 05:59 PM

How much actual airspace is there? Can you put something in there to take up the play and see if it makes a difference?

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Posted June 25, 2015 - 06:29 PM

How much actual airspace is there? Can you put something in there to take up the play and see if it makes a difference?

both pieces are rather worn..i looked on sears website and the replacement part looks nothing like what i have  :wallbanging:



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Posted June 26, 2015 - 02:05 PM

thanks.. i cant find the part listed on there diagram.. its the part which holds both the clutch and brake links

i looked at it again and was able to fix the sloppy linkage somewhat.. then i looked at the bellcrank.cl (thats in your link http://www.searspart...47/1509200.html) when the clutch was pressed i was able to push it left and right as if whatever rides under the washer was worn.. could this be the issue not letting me get full pedal?


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Posted June 26, 2015 - 05:09 PM

It could be, did you disconnect the brake linkage yet?

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Posted June 26, 2015 - 08:07 PM

It could be, did you disconnect the brake linkage yet?

i tried.. it  still was the same


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Posted June 27, 2015 - 08:17 AM

would a worn pully be the cause.. how would i tell if its worn?



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Posted June 27, 2015 - 08:45 AM

I would say its either a little short on the belt or the linkage is still the issue.
If the tensioner pullies are moved further, will the belt disengage then?

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Posted June 27, 2015 - 01:20 PM

well i got it to work  :dancingbanana: didnt know what to do so i cut out the parking brake rod and used its hole(drilled it bigger)and put the linkage through it.. clutch works too well now , if pressed fully the belt falls off.. so i only press it a 1/4 of the way and it works great.. thanks for all the help/info :thumbs:


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