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got a new belt and still doesnt disengage


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#1 dennis55 OFFLINE  

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Posted June 23, 2015 - 01:31 PM

put a new belt on and it still has the clutch(drives when clutch is depressed) issue

 

i pulled the engine pully guides to see if it made a difference(didnt)

 

hopefully someone can see something in these pics im missing.. thanks in advance

 

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Posted June 23, 2015 - 01:42 PM

Missing 1/3 of travel seems a bit too much and could likely the cause.  



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Posted June 23, 2015 - 01:45 PM

Did you ever determine the model?

Did you get an aftermarket or an OEM spec belt?


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Posted June 23, 2015 - 03:07 PM

Sounds to me like its just not disengaging enough. There is a possibility that rust on the pulleys is causing some creep, but it should polish itself off quickly.


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Posted June 23, 2015 - 03:26 PM

Belt looks like it's riding alot deeper in the engine pulley now.Maybe it was just the angle you took the pic from.

 

 

If there's to much slop in the Linkage it could give you problems.I've never had 1 bad enough to not disengage the engine pulley though.

 

 

 

As stated by Brian AKA Bolens 1000 :big_hug:  :rolling:  about aftermarket vs OEM belts.Alot of the OEM belts are Slightly Longer.Up to 1/4" - 3/4" longer than aftermarket belts.That little bit of difference will cause problems disengaging.


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Posted June 23, 2015 - 03:40 PM

I don't see any belt guides in the fifth picture on both sides of the engine pulley. Guides in that location would keep the belt together some and help it push out of the pulley to disengage it. And there should be a guide on the next v pulley to keep the belt in the pulley so it does not fall out when in the disengaged position, if I am seeing things right there. Noel



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Posted June 23, 2015 - 04:28 PM

Did you ever determine the model?

Did you get an aftermarket or an OEM spec belt?

model#917273130



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Posted June 23, 2015 - 04:31 PM

Belt looks like it's riding alot deeper in the engine pulley now.Maybe it was just the angle you took the pic from.

 

 

If there's to much slop in the Linkage it could give you problems.I've never had 1 bad enough to not disengage the engine pulley though.

 

 

 

As stated by Brian AKA Bolens 1000 :big_hug:  :rolling:  about aftermarket vs OEM belts.Alot of the OEM belts are Slightly Longer.Up to 1/4" - 3/4" longer than aftermarket belts.That little bit of difference will cause problems disengaging.

if the pully was worn would that cause it to stick?it seems to be tight(when clutch is pushed in) by the idler and clutch pully



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Posted June 23, 2015 - 05:22 PM

Just ran the number through my system and it is indeed a special material and special length belt. The belt you have on there looks like a blue aftermarket correct?

 

I can get you the correct belt if needed

 

 

To check the bearings in the idlers remove the belt from the pulley and spin them by hand if they feel rough or make a growling noise they need to be replaced, an idler is not your issue though

 

I would say its the wrong belt or the sloppy linkage



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Posted June 23, 2015 - 05:27 PM

Belt should be OEM Part# 130801 1/2" x 94.5"

 

You can use an aftermarket belt but a 94" belt will be to short.1/2" to short is all it takes for the clutch to not fully disengage.You can use a 95" belt.

 

What length belt did you get?

 

Noticed that mower has a 6? speed peerless those tend to hang in rear once the factory grease drys up.Does it shift ok when the engine is not running?

 

 

 

lol @ Brian ya beat me to it.


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Posted June 23, 2015 - 05:32 PM

What about the detent ball I had one on a craftsman break



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Posted June 23, 2015 - 07:07 PM

does anyone know the name of the triangular piece(which holds the clutch rod and the brake rod) and does it seperate from the rod thats connected to the clutch pedal(rod that goes under the frame)

 

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Posted June 23, 2015 - 07:08 PM

Belt should be OEM Part# 130801 1/2" x 94.5"

 

You can use an aftermarket belt but a 94" belt will be to short.1/2" to short is all it takes for the clutch to not fully disengage.You can use a 95" belt.

 

What length belt did you get?

 

Noticed that mower has a 6? speed peerless those tend to hang in rear once the factory grease drys up.Does it shift ok when the engine is not running?

 

 

 

lol @ Brian ya beat me to it.

it shifts when it isnt running.. they said the belt was 95..



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Posted June 23, 2015 - 07:12 PM

it shifts when it isnt running.. they said the belt was 95..

 

1/2'' is a big difference on these drive lines , the oem ones I get in also have a smooth fabric cover for clutching 



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Posted June 23, 2015 - 07:37 PM

Sears still sells most of those parts.

 

http://www.searspart...1220/00003.html

 

Is this the part that you need?

http://www.searspart...47/1509200.html


Edited by EricFromPa, June 23, 2015 - 07:50 PM.





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