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#1 ryanp OFFLINE  

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Posted March 30, 2011 - 01:21 PM

Doing some research on different engines I might be able to use as a conversion, and thought I would share this with you made by

here's the link
http://www.princessa...p-diesel-engine

10 HP @ 3,600 RPM
Electric start/recoil start backup
1" keyed shaft
1.5 gallon (5.5 litre) fuel tank
Air cooled
For commercial, agricultural, and industrial use
406 cc displacement

Also says it has a charging system, and rotation of shaft is counter-clockwise

The manufactures website of the engine is All Power America but they have no listing for the individual engine

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Posted March 30, 2011 - 01:37 PM

There are a couple of guys that have used the cheap Chinese diesels for conversions projects and have reported great results. I plan on doing one in the future.

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Posted March 30, 2011 - 01:44 PM

I plan on doing one in the future.


Me too along with a ton of other projects! LOL!

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Posted March 30, 2011 - 02:23 PM

Somehow, pull start and Diesel do not compute in my book. LOL

Thanks for the link.

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Posted March 30, 2011 - 02:40 PM

Somehow, pull start and Diesel do not compute in my book. LOL

Thanks for the link.


What, you don't like having your shoulder yanked out of socket? LOL

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Posted March 30, 2011 - 04:32 PM

Somehow, pull start and Diesel do not compute in my book. LOL
Thanks for the link.


I think I'm with you on this one LOL!

What, you don't like having your shoulder yanked out of socket? LOL


At our age, their only hanging on by a thread as it is George LOL!

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Posted April 12, 2011 - 05:14 AM

They sold out! I looked on the site some more and found a gas 15 hp for $275??? Wow, that seems like a really good deal too.

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Posted April 29, 2011 - 06:47 AM

It seems like it would be a worthwhile project given the cost of fuel these days.

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Posted April 29, 2011 - 07:21 PM

There was a John Deere at the PA Plow Day that had one of the 6hp china diesels in it. At first it didn't seem like it was doing so good but I think it must have been the plow setup. Later on I seen him again and that thing was chugging right along. I couldn't believe how much black smoke it put out.

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Posted May 02, 2011 - 09:05 AM

Later on I seen him again and that thing was chugging right along. I couldn't believe how much black smoke it put out.


Interesting..... I would like to have seen that.

JN

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Posted July 11, 2011 - 12:08 PM

Thought I might shed a little light on All Power products. I used to work at a Rural King as a shop mechanic where we sold a ton of their generators (we had a big ice storm) and your getting what you pay for. The generators we sold had a copy of a honda gas engine. We had a lot of them come back. The main problem we had was with the over head valve. The rockers are stamped pieces that have a "cup" for the push rod to sit in. These "cups" would push out (it's all one solid piece of metal but the cup itself tore out) and cause all kinds of trouble. Even had a couple cases crack in various places. Simple things like motor mounts and muffeler mounts/brackets were breaking on these things. Had a lot of trouble with the electrical side of things to, but thats a different story. Maybe it's different with the diesels, but I certainly won't be spending my hard earned money to find out.

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Posted July 11, 2011 - 02:15 PM

Since Honda lost the patent rights on their engines, more than one company in China has cloned them. I don't refute what you report because you saw what you saw. However, when the clones first appeared, a large number of go-karters began to use them. They found that OEM Honda parts would interchange with the parts in the clone engines......no problem. The karting krowd embraced the clone engines thoroughly. I have no explanation for the woes you witnessed other than to say that there are good clones and apparently some bad ones. That's a shame.

As for Princess Auto..... you can buy with 100 percent confidence. If you bought a Yanmar clone diesel engine from them and it failed five years later, they would stand behind it. That's the Princess way. No deal is ever final.

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Posted July 12, 2011 - 11:54 AM

Not sure where the karters get their clones or who made them, but this is just my experience with the clones used on All Power America generators. Not sure who makes them or if they have made changes since 2009 (when the ice storm hit). I will say that we were able to gets parts without much trouble from All Power when we did need them unlike some of the parts for the tractors we sold.

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Posted July 18, 2011 - 10:35 AM

There are probably hundreds of factories in China turning out clone engines. The QC can vary from non existent to ISO 9001 certified. I have seen a U tube video of someone explaining all the problems they have found witrh the clone engines they had used. Most were minor like parts not fitting properly or covers not tight etc. There were potentially more serious things like head bolts loose etc. I have considered one myself and would probably buy one from Princess Auto but I would do my research up front and then give the engine a thorough going over before putting it into service.

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Posted July 20, 2011 - 09:03 PM

I have a 20HP Vtwin on the bench to put in a JD 318 as soon as the weather cools a little. I saw a 10HP on a tractor at portland IN. and it ran fine. If the Vtwin runs as good I will be very happy. Will let every one know when it gets done.

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