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#1 MFDAC OFFLINE  

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Posted June 08, 2015 - 09:29 PM

Hey GTT folks, I know there are some locomotive experts here and have been meaning to post a few pics of one that was on display in Canon (pronounced Canyon) City, CO. My sister bought us tickets to ride the Royal Gorge Railway last summer and I grabbed these pics while boarding.

 

I knew when I took these quick pics that this machine was unlike any steam locomotive I have ever seen but would like to know more about it. It has six vertical cylinders which rotate crankshafts and it appears the INVISIBLE wheels all are hooked together through driveshaft systems and it even looks like the coal car wheels may be drivers!

 

Anyway if y'all know anything about this oddity (to me anyway) I would sure like some more knowledge!

 

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Posted June 08, 2015 - 09:43 PM

they were built for the logging industry long steep grades, and sharp curves


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Posted June 08, 2015 - 10:03 PM

I'm a Canadian Rocky Mountain ( my dad was a CPR engineer) train man myself, but I must admit, I've never seen a configuration like that


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Posted June 09, 2015 - 03:12 AM

What tinbender 7 said.   By the way I know it's old but holy cow is that Moses operating it?


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Posted June 09, 2015 - 03:58 AM

Yep,,, Tinbender nailed it !!! 


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Posted June 09, 2015 - 04:03 AM

they were built for the logging industry long steep grades, and sharp curves

We rode on an old logging train into the mountain's down in VA or W. VA a few years ago. The engine was very similar!


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Posted June 09, 2015 - 07:29 AM

That engine is called a Shay. They were built in 2 and 3 truck styles. This one is a 3 truck, 1 under the front, 1 under the cab and 1 under the tender. The 2 truck Shay's had the front truck and the second was under the rear of the engine where the fuel supply was stored, right behind the cab. No separate tender.

Tinbender has it right. Steep grades, sharp curves and short runs. Were a very slow moving engine, with lots of power and small diameter drivers. It took a lot of skill to operate one as the wheels could be spun fairly easily.
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Posted June 09, 2015 - 07:48 AM

go here and read all about it. I learned a lot. I was not aware that the Shay was built by Lima

 

http://limalocomotiv...shay_locos.html


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Posted June 09, 2015 - 08:16 AM

There are two other styles of logging locomotives, the Heisler  and the Climax. The Heisler used a v twin arrangement on the steam cylinders driving a central driveshaft. The climax used a steam cylinder on each side above the drive trucks. The neat thing is the plants that produced these locomotives were only 20 miles apart.


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Posted June 09, 2015 - 06:00 PM

There are a couple companies that build HO scale model of these locomotives. If you get a chance to see one in operation by all means don't pass it up. I had a 2 truck Shay in operation on my large layout a couple years ago in HO scale. Had a long string of log cars it pulled. Took a lo-o-o-o-o-o-ng time for it to make the route around a 14 X 60 layout. Sure was interesting to watch but had to keep it oiled as there is a ton of moving parts on one of them. Usually takes some fine tuning to really get them to run smooth also.
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Posted June 09, 2015 - 06:51 PM

What tinbender 7 said.   By the way I know it's old but holy cow is that Moses operating it?

 

If I was the engineer of that old locomotive, I  wouldn't retire either....too much fun!


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Posted June 09, 2015 - 08:13 PM

Wow! I knew you folks would come through with some great info! Shay is a familiar name in local railroading history, but I never knew they were so different that the "normal" arrangements. I can easily see it's advantages on steep grades but am having a bit of a hard time comprehending how it could handle sharp turns well. I will read the Shay site Tinbender7 posted in more detail later. This one appears to be of the 60 ton style from the 1920 era.

 

Thanks again all of you! ----DAC


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Posted June 09, 2015 - 10:15 PM

MFDAC, all these loco's have powered trucks, not regular driving wheels, so they are able to negotiate sharper turns than standard loco's. 


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Posted June 09, 2015 - 10:59 PM

One of my main sections on my HO scale layout is my Maple Valley Logging & Millwork saw mill . I have two of these engines & love both of them. Like mentioned it takes them forever to get around the track. These engines have always fascinated me not just the power but the engineering & maintenence to keep them working.

 

Here is my Rivarossi Two Truck Heisler. This will later be re badged as the next one I done.

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Here is my Bachmann Spectrum Three Truck Shay that I named. I also have somewhere matching Bobber Caboose's.

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Posted June 10, 2015 - 10:38 AM

there is heaps of u tubes about those locomotives history & restore vid's on them , i love the drive concept on them 

 

did they have the nick name side winders ??

 

 been ages sinse i watched the vid's The 5 & such  chime whistles are awesome to hear even on the vids , i just love them 


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