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#1 KennyP OFFLINE  

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Posted June 02, 2015 - 04:38 PM

I took on this job. Got to build in a new outside wall for these windows.

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Today, we stripped the inside wall to see what damage there was. Not much water, but more termites. He has had the house treated, so no live ones were found. This must have had a picture window with two small windows beside. They took that out and put the two smaller windows in. But, no studs to the bottom plate. That let the wall sag inward. I hope to remedy this easily, but may need pontoons to work under the floor.


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Posted June 02, 2015 - 06:06 PM

Hope the weather is good for your work. Looking forward to some after pictures. :wave:


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Posted June 02, 2015 - 06:55 PM

Maybe you need to buy a wet-suit to work under there!  Man that wall has sagged inward!


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Posted June 02, 2015 - 07:07 PM

Maybe you need to buy a wet-suit to work under there!  Man that wall has sagged inward!

From what I see inside, the original opening was close to 8'. They just closed it in to fit these smaller windows. Then the termites got into the center studs and it just bowed in. Have a little roof sag going on too.


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Posted June 02, 2015 - 07:16 PM

Need to say there is no header above this opening as yet!


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Posted June 03, 2015 - 07:38 AM

That's some bowing.

 

Are you planning on just doing it all inside or are you gonna have to rip off siding?


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Posted June 03, 2015 - 09:50 AM

That's some bowing.

 

Are you planning on just doing it all inside or are you gonna have to rip off siding?

 

Looks to me the entire wall may need to come down to do it right, but of course that also depends on what the owner can afford.  Would be bad not to be able to do it right but money might limit what Kenny can do.


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Posted June 03, 2015 - 05:07 PM

It's going back to bare studs both sides. It's a nightmare for sure, but I have a plan to make things much better. Here's a couple inside shots of what we have open so far. I have a temporary wall in place for the drop ceiling, can't see what is above until the outside is opened up. A lot of thinking is going on here.

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This is not 'new' construction. Rather very old. They built the floor framing, then put up the exterior walls  then subflooring. So I have to take into account all this.

 In the pics, everything to the right of the windows is 'good'. Everything left has been ate out by termites below window level and down. You can see there is no header above the windows and the opening as originally built.

 


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Posted June 04, 2015 - 09:14 AM

My old farmhouse is the same way, no headers over any of the windows or doors.


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Posted June 04, 2015 - 05:30 PM

That's how a lot of them did it. No permits. no inspections, no standards like today. They did what they could afford ,and what they thought was enough/ right. Looking good Kenny. 


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Posted June 04, 2015 - 06:48 PM

Got some more done today! The wall got stripped out and started building back in. I didn't get a pic, but the roof was sagging badly. Getting some of that out, but have major issues with 3 floor joists. The termites did their job well.

I tried to get an across the floor shot here.

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Here's the offending joists.

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A shot of one joist out toward the middle.

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And a shot just as we packed up to come home. And yes that is a jack & post supporting the upper plate.

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The short boards at the top are still there as they are all that is holding the drop ceiling up right now.


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Posted June 04, 2015 - 07:35 PM

Wow! I  can't believe that hasn't fallen down. 


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Posted June 04, 2015 - 07:48 PM

Wow! I  can't believe that hasn't fallen down. 

Close!



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Posted June 04, 2015 - 08:44 PM

It always amazes me how things were built 30-60 years ago. The things we have to do today in building compared to then are worlds apart in requirements.


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Posted June 04, 2015 - 09:48 PM

It always amazes me how things were built 30-60 years ago. The things we have to do today in building compared to then are worlds apart in requirements.

I feel the opposite way. I've worked in a number of houses built in last decade that are no where near as strong as my 95 year old house.

My aunts house built in 1999 has has sagging floor joists that creak and groan when you walk around. Mother in laws house has cracked drywall all over and is pretty out of square for a newer home. I see houses with vynil siding that is wrippled and bowed.

Looking at what I can see. Was the window originally in that house? Doesn't seem that way to me.

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