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#1 tater195 ONLINE  

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Posted May 29, 2015 - 07:50 AM

After 11 years I am getting tired of mowing5 acres for 2+ hrs every time and have decided to fence some off for pasture. I am thinking about getting a few steers to put on 1.66 acres. From what I have read.... 1 to 1.5 acres for a cow/ calf pair, steers fatten up better when they are not alone, send them to the butcher at 18 months and grain the hell out of them for the last few months. I also heard that you can sell the second one to pay for the first one.

 

I have 466' of line fence now and will need to add about 1200' of 4 strand barbed wire for around $2000. One lot will be just over 1 acre and a second one will be around 1/2. They will be connected by a cross fence with a gate

 

I have a few questions on this and maybe someone who has "been there ,done that" can give me a few pointers.

 

Does this sound like it will work?

I read that to fatten them up,  you start them out at 2# of grain a day, slowly increasing up to 20# a day before slaughter. Will this help with the borderline small pasture?

Not sure 1 beef will last us 2 years. would keeping 2 steers, one a year older than the other one, workout?

 

If this doesnt sound like it will work, I have thought about getting goats, but that requires a completely different fence and will almost triple the price of that. The neighbors had a few. They look like loud , smelly, destructive creatures to me, so that may not be an option.


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Posted May 29, 2015 - 09:48 AM

I've thought about livestock too. I don't know the answer to your questions. I came to the conclusion years ago that chickens and rabbits made the most sense and that if I was going to go to something bigger it would be goats. They all become a tight controll on what you can and cannot do. What about just haying the field or planting it to a crop like soybeans? I am now curious what the knowledgeable answers. Good Luck, Rick


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Posted May 29, 2015 - 10:06 AM

Hard to get some one to bale 1 acre around here, even if you give them the hay. The logic behind the steers is to off set the high cost of beef. Dont want to start a petting zoo, so if I cant eat it, I dont need it


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Posted May 29, 2015 - 10:31 AM

That is why I haven't gone to any animals and am leaning towards soybeans. I cleared the area 26 years ago with my dozer but it has all grown back as birch trees. I've got time(I hope). Good Luck, Rick


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Posted May 29, 2015 - 11:07 AM

I can't speak for cattle

As for goats, I have 6 young ones in an area 50' x 100'. we still have to cut the grass every few weeks, they wont eat fast enough. :smilewink:

 

While it's usually a financial loss, but If you don't ever want to mow, put 2 horses on there, you will end up with a dust bowl, they will mow it down in now time. I had 1 horse on 1 1/2 acres, she ate everything that was gree and even tree bark.


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Posted May 29, 2015 - 12:23 PM

We have 3 yearlings and my Jersey cow on a 4acre pasture next to our house with the rest of the cattle in the barn or on the 6+/- acre pasture at then barn, you will have to give them some grain from day one or they will get wild and hard to work with.  You should also check with your town's zoning as most towns have rules on min. acres required to have large livestock, the town I live in rule is 5acres for example.


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Posted May 29, 2015 - 12:35 PM

Im out in the county. They are the reason for the extra 2 acres. I only wanted 3. They said we needed a minimum of 5 to build a house
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Posted May 29, 2015 - 12:40 PM

Here in Misery [Missouri] there is always someone looking to rent small horse pasture.  I say build the fence and find a city-dwelling horse lover.

 

Ya may not get any meat but a rent check every month would be even better!  :thumbs:


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Posted May 29, 2015 - 12:49 PM

Im out in the county. They are the reason for the extra 2 acres. I only wanted 3. They said we needed a minimum of 5 to build a house

Wow, that's pretty strict on lot size, When I moved from PA in '09 the rule was 2 acres, but could have changed since then also, not sure what it is here.


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Posted May 29, 2015 - 03:24 PM

Here is Misery [Missouri] there is always someone looking for small horse pasture.  I say build the fence and find a city-dwelling horse lover.

 

Ya may not get any meat but a rent check every month would be even better!  :thumbs:

I grew up around horses as a kid and was forced to do all the "fun" horse stuff whether I wanted to or not... cut and bale hay on every 3 day weekend, build fences in July, chop ice all winter... I cant stand to look at the flea bags now 


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Posted May 29, 2015 - 04:19 PM

Here in Misery [Missouri] there is always someone looking to rent small horse pasture.  I say build the fence and find a city-dwelling horse lover.

 

Ya may not get any meat but a rent check every month would be even better!  :thumbs:

Your probably going to have to have livestock liability insurance, aren't you?


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Posted May 29, 2015 - 04:57 PM

Your probably going to have to have livestock liability insurance, aren't you?

Not if you don't own any livestock.  Tater should just rent out his pasture.  Animal owners must maintain fence and care for their animals.  Land owner just collects rent.


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Posted May 29, 2015 - 05:34 PM

heck I'd just buy a gallon of roundup and take care of the whole grass problem



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Posted May 29, 2015 - 05:56 PM

heck I'd just buy a gallon of roundup and take care of the whole grass problem

I like Ground Clear better!



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Posted May 29, 2015 - 06:47 PM

Just mow the grass. Renters present their own issues. Livestock is not efficient in small numbers. You lose one and it is a large loss. If you use chemicals be prepared to do it at least every month and see weeds in between. Buy meat at a good meat market and find a mower that cuts fast.


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