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Posted May 28, 2015 - 06:58 AM

Seems lots of guys with that 6.5 hp HFreight engine and liking them. I see them at shows in all kinds of tractors and other uses. NOW, they have a V-twin offered, saw one for $599 or close. Think it said 20 or 22 hp with those. I haven't seen how big the shaft is on them yet. Anyone have one of those and having good luck?  That might make good engine for that Speedex I have that had a Vanguard twin in it when new. They are half price of the Briggs, but wonder if Half the quality too, heh!


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Posted May 28, 2015 - 07:56 AM

The only experience I have had with clone engines was on a generator a guy brought by to get fixed. He used it for power tools while building a house. He put a crap load of hours on it, ran it all day, every day for months. He said he shut it off after the electrical service got hooked up and it wouldnt restart.

The push rod for one intake valve got sloppy and the button fell off and it busted the rocker. You think he would have noticed the noise when he shut it off, unless he just ran it out of gas and didnt hear it.

It took forever to get parts, but I blame that on the shop I ordered them through. I replaced the valve, rocker, keeper, push rod and button that goes on it. It ran like a top when I got done with it.


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Posted May 28, 2015 - 07:58 AM

Seems lots of guys with that 6.5 hp HFreight engine and liking them. I see them at shows in all kinds of tractors and other uses. NOW, they have a V-twin offered, saw one for $599 or close. Think it said 20 or 22 hp with those. I haven't seen how big the shaft is on them yet. Anyone have one of those and having good luck?  That might make good engine for that Speedex I have that had a Vanguard twin in it when new. They are half price of the Briggs, but wonder if Half the quality too, heh!

I took the liberty of finding the Owners Manual for this and uploaded it.


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Posted May 28, 2015 - 08:14 AM

 Anyone have one of those and having good luck? 

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Posted May 28, 2015 - 09:14 AM

GL, this may help answer your question.  Rick was wondering the same thing.



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Posted May 28, 2015 - 09:22 AM

So, 1" shaft, 3.5" with a 1/4" keyway and end tapped for a 3/8 bolt.

http://m.harborfreig...-epa-61614.html

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Posted May 28, 2015 - 09:24 AM

I have read with a few simple mods, the 6.5 can be up to about 9 hp.

I have only read a handful of complaints on the 6.5 motors. When you think how many thousands have been sold and just a few complaints, seems like they are pretty durable.


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Posted May 28, 2015 - 10:42 AM

I've read a bit about the RED Honda clone Predator Twins but nothing on these.I don't know if they use the same Internals or not.They seemed to suffer from the same problem as the 1st gen Briggs V-twins.They had flimsy push rods and would bend after a few hundred hours.

 

Another thing on the older Red Honda Clone V-Twin was the "Cheap manufacturing" of the Heads.They tended to drop Valve seats and result in bending and some times breaking the valves off.

 

All that being said alot of  the reviews that they have on Harbor Freights site that they do not idle down very well.Lumpy idle with stalling if you set it to low.



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Posted May 28, 2015 - 10:59 AM

I have heard all good reports from these engines. Like any engine they can all be abused. Go on You Tube & you can see a lot of these being used & they are satisfied. I don't think they will work in your boat though   :D


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Posted May 28, 2015 - 11:09 AM

I have read with a few simple mods, the 6.5 can be up to about 9 hp.

I have only read a handful of complaints on the 6.5 motors. When you think how many thousands have been sold and just a few complaints, seems like they are pretty durable.

What kind of simple mods are we talking? Not cams and carbs and such?


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Posted May 28, 2015 - 11:29 AM

What kind of simple mods are we talking? Not cams and carbs and such?

rejetting carbs, larger air intakes and opening exhaust....you know, remove all the pollution controls hahaha


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Posted May 28, 2015 - 12:09 PM

There are an awful lot of the Honda clones in service around the country! And overall they seem to be a good value for the price.
My only experience is with a Briggs branded one on my Troy built tiller. In 3 yrs of hard usage it has not burned a drop of oil, always starts on the second pull, and burns far less fuel than any Briggs I have ever owned.

The local Go Kart track has classes for stock and modified clones, and I understand tracks across the country do too.
I think they are a good value and budget option. They may not last as long as the commonly accepted brands, but aat half the price why not.

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Posted May 28, 2015 - 02:11 PM

. In 3 yrs of hard usage it has not burned a drop of oil, always starts on the second pull, and burns far less fuel than any Briggs I have ever owned.

Do tell! Who would have thought those Chinese could build such a thing!



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Posted May 28, 2015 - 02:43 PM

 

 


Do tell! Who would have thought those Chinese could build such a thing!

 

They did steal the design from Japan!



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Posted May 28, 2015 - 02:48 PM

They did steal the design from Japan!


And we do reward liars, cheats, and thieves nowadays. Just look at our ####### system.

Crap, I'll give myself a point.
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