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#1 westdestined72 OFFLINE  

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Posted May 26, 2015 - 09:30 PM

I had a very leaky seal on the left side. Yesterday I dove into replacing the seal. Also while replacing the seal I wanted to look into why the locking hub did not work, and re adjust the axle end play. The right side castle nut was practically fused on since someone back when did not have a cotter pin and peened the end of the axle over. With a little filing and a 5 foot piece of square stock over my adjustable wrench I was able to free the castle nut. Now I will need to hunt down a die to clean up the threads (if the axle is worth saving) Now getting into that when I pulled the hub off the end was all chewed up, so I looked into the transaxle housing to find that possibly at some point the axle was broken and welded back together. So I'm thinking I need a new hub and axle. I also know that after pulling the right side I need a new seal as well. Tomorrow may bring more disassembly. Sorry about the photo quality looking into the transaxle, if you look at an enlarged photo you will notice some repair welds.

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#2 Bolens 1000 OFFLINE  

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Posted May 27, 2015 - 05:46 AM

That's definitely the reason your not being able to use the locking differential

The two channels in the cast iron wheel hub are what is supposed to lock into the coupling grooves

 

You still may be able to save it, Looks like for some reason they welded the coupling 1714565 to the shaft

May need a cast hub through


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Posted May 28, 2015 - 09:05 PM

I got a chance to pull the top cover off the transaxle today to find the right side was also welded.I'm thinking someone had the idea to try and make a full time locker. It's going to take a miracle to get this thing apart. A few options I have come with are if I can sneak my angle grinder in there and grind the weld, or locate myself a new axle and cut the axle out with my sawzall with some good Milwaukee rescue blades.



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Posted May 28, 2015 - 09:07 PM

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Posted May 28, 2015 - 09:51 PM

That really is a mess! If it were mine, I would be looking for another axle or a transaxle.
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Posted May 29, 2015 - 05:39 AM

That really is a mess! If it were mine, I would be looking for another axle or a transaxle.

That was kind of my thought when I opened it up, It is a bit messy in there could use a real good cleaning. I'm going  to try my best to salvage what I can.



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Posted May 29, 2015 - 06:19 AM

Wow someone did a number on that!

 

Too bad as the rest of the gears look great!



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Posted May 29, 2015 - 07:22 PM

To bad your half way across the country.  I have a good 6 speed trans axle you could really use about now.



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Posted May 29, 2015 - 07:40 PM

That is nasty - whoever did that had no intentions of being able to take it apart again :wallbanging: .

 

You could try a die grinder with a carbide burr on the welds as it may not spark as bad as a grinder - just a suggestion.  If you try grinding move it outside, drain all the gear lube out and keep a fire extinguisher handy as any sparks may start a fire - better to loose a transmission than a garage.  If you do get it apart I would suggest you flush / clean everything as the weld slag from the original weld, any filings from the worn hub, and any grinding you do has or will produce grit and debris that is not good for bearings and bushings - GOOD LUCK.



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Posted May 30, 2015 - 05:57 PM

Thank you for the idea 29 Chev. I gave that a try last night it was taking the welds down nicely a bit pain staking but a labor of love hahaha, I was on it for about an hour. Probably a few more hours and ill make it completely through those welds.



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Posted May 30, 2015 - 05:58 PM

Halfway across the country would be a bit of a hike!!



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Posted May 30, 2015 - 06:03 PM

Yester day for the heck of it I jumped on craigslist and typed Bolens in the search bar. A few posts of some nice looking GTs popped up. This one in particular was a trailer full of tube frames and a trailer full of misc. parts and attachments. I replied to the posting. The gentleman got back to me this evening very nice knowledgeable fellow. In the picture was an 800 that sparked my curiosity, unfortunately that one is not for sale.  However, he does have a front plow and snow blower attachment he is willing to sell.

Also he does have an old 1050 parts tractor.

Would a 1050 transaxle work in my 800?



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Posted May 30, 2015 - 06:24 PM

Yester day for the heck of it I jumped on craigslist and typed Bolens in the search bar. A few posts of some nice looking GTs popped up. This one in particular was a trailer full of tube frames and a trailer full of misc. parts and attachments. I replied to the posting. The gentleman got back to me this evening very nice knowledgeable fellow. In the picture was an 800 that sparked my curiosity, unfortunately that one is not for sale.  However, he does have a front plow and snow blower attachment he is willing to sell.

Also he does have an old 1050 parts tractor.

Would a 1050 transaxle work in my 800?

 

It will bolt up but you'll have 2x as many speeds as the 1050 used a 6 speed, you may notice a slight power decrease when your running it especially if yours is the older S7D 800


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Posted May 30, 2015 - 06:24 PM

Yester day for the heck of it I jumped on craigslist and typed Bolens in the search bar. A few posts of some nice looking GTs popped up. This one in particular was a trailer full of tube frames and a trailer full of misc. parts and attachments. I replied to the posting. The gentleman got back to me this evening very nice knowledgeable fellow. In the picture was an 800 that sparked my curiosity, unfortunately that one is not for sale.  However, he does have a front plow and snow blower attachment he is willing to sell.

Also he does have an old 1050 parts tractor.

Would a 1050 transaxle work in my 800?

 

I know of that post i was interested in the large frame on the trailer but it's also not for-sale.


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Posted May 30, 2015 - 06:33 PM

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Here is a photo of the transaxle the gentleman sent me.
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Here is the 1050




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