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#1 mtoney OFFLINE  

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Posted May 11, 2015 - 07:34 PM

I have a 4041 Simplicity offered to me in trade for my 920 diesel GT.  Comes with a snowthrower, has the 3pt hitch on it, 110psi compression on both cylinders but does have a loss of spark issue, acts like points/condenser or coil.  Has narrow tri ribs on the front and narrow rears, has all terrain truck tires on the rear now, thats what he got it with.  He has moved to smaller property and wants a slighty smaller machine.  I am very very interested but wanted to bounce the idea off others.  Mike


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Posted May 11, 2015 - 07:37 PM

If it is the one I am thinking about it is some kinda rough I would stay away if it is that one a 920 is a rare bird
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Posted May 11, 2015 - 07:38 PM

If you want a project I got one and a 4040 that is rough I will sell for 1000 and throw in a kubota deseil for 1100 bucks
That's two tractors and a diesel engine for one for 1100 bucks total

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Posted May 11, 2015 - 07:39 PM

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Posted May 11, 2015 - 09:34 PM

that's a tough one,the 920's are fun ,but the 4041 is quite a bit more tractor ,plus if u get it you can find allis 616-620-720 tin work to make it look better

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Posted May 12, 2015 - 09:52 AM

I'd say the 920 is worth more...I can't believe you haven't sold that thing.  My last 7790 was listed for $1800 with just a deck, and was sold in a day.  Guy drove from eastern NY.  The one before that sold in a day as well, and yours is AC, to boot.  Go list it at allischalmers.com/forum.  Those guys overpay for anything with an AC decal on it.  Heck, it's close to 'tempting' price to me!

 

Are you wanting to USE The 4041?  They are a nice heavy machine, but really could have used power steering for blower & loader work.  If I were to toy with one, I'd hold out for a repowered 720 or 9020...heavier front spindles, standard aux hydraulics, etc.  Those Onans are known for bad coils.  3 point is almost standard on these, so that's not really a selling point.  If it has Rear PTO (functional), it might be worth the trade.  If it doesn't and you want to use rear attachments, I wouldn't count on tracking one down without losing a small fortune.

 

Just some thoughts.  If it were me, I'd pass or want some cash.


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Posted May 12, 2015 - 05:36 PM

He says the pto is complete but the clutch is out, a replacement clutch is included to restore rear pto ability.  I wouldnt be using the rear pto right away or anytime really soon.  Mainly want her for the 3 point hitch, which the 920 cant have;  I asked him if he was willing to bring the 4041 to me at work so I can see it in person, and run my own tests on the engine.  We will see what happens, I havent made any decision yet.  Was more hoping for a big wheel Case with Onan power and a 3pt on it, this one kind of showed up out of nowhere.  I am not totaly sure I can get it thru my gate to the back yard!  Mike



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Posted May 13, 2015 - 01:05 AM

Make sure you take the covers off of the deck if it has one they rust out really bad there and you can still get that clutch but if memory serves it is 375.00 or 475.00 last one I bought they used to steal the one from the back when the one from the front went out. Great heavy machine. Check the front end those are bad to get worn if they don't grease them.

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Posted May 13, 2015 - 09:18 AM

I really like the Case/Ingersoll tractors.  That hydraulic drive and hysraulic implements are sweet.  I had a powersteer model with 3pt, rear PTO/tiller and shouldn't have let that go.



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Posted May 13, 2015 - 11:45 AM

There is no deck and he isnt willing to bring the tractor up to me so I can check out the engine ect before I would agree to anything.  I dont have the time to go look at it down at his place north of Indy as we are still quite burried with repair work at the shop.  So for now, the 920 stays put in my collection.   Thanks for the knowledge on the 4041 and what to watch for.   Mike



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Posted May 13, 2015 - 12:42 PM

Imo, unless the 4041 is immaculate, yours is worth more.

The three speed range on the hydro of the 4041 is pretty sweet, though.
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Posted May 13, 2015 - 05:17 PM

If someone wants the 920, $1600 would own it along with the mower deck and custom painted spring trip snow blade.  I am ready to move onto the next project myself.  I fix them up and enjoy them for awhile, then send them to a new home and find something else to mess with   Mike






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