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Posted May 10, 2015 - 08:38 PM

Had a LOT of dorking around to do today. Had to take Ryan to the City to get a prom suit, his date to a couple stores... Etc, etc.
Didnt get to even look at this until 5 tonight.
Then I got busy and got the rear end out (45 minutes). 30 minutes after that, I am dissecting the hyd motor as that's what isn't turning.

Pics soon

During this part of the process, I ran a knuckle the length of a piece of milled steel.
I almost got sick because of the feeling.
My experience with a cut like this is there isn't much they can do, just wash it out and bandage it up. I can do that at home... Decided to man up and get back to work with a bunch of gauze bandage and a rubber glove.
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Posted May 10, 2015 - 08:45 PM

What does the hyd motor look like?

Great find.

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Posted May 10, 2015 - 08:46 PM

Another Sears, sounds good, is that where they put the filter or did somebody add that on?

The cooler is for the Hydro also?

Looks like they use the engine cooling fan to draw air through it.


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Posted May 10, 2015 - 08:57 PM

Do we get a pic of the cut too?


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Posted May 11, 2015 - 06:28 AM

Do we get a pic of the cut too?

Nope, because then I'd have to look at it too.

First off' what the motor kinda looks like.
(Online photos because I was busy with cleaning a wound and forgot to take pics.)
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Then, when you get it apart, this is what it's supposed to look like
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Decent exploded view (this one doesn't have springs)
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Ok, now for why it wouldn't turn
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There were three pistons frozen in there sleeves. I mean stuck, like "making a punch-putting the whole thing in the vise-smacking with big hammer" stuck. But it's now apart without further issue.
These three were "down" and would've been exposed to the water first. The PO tried dragging it to get it loose and bent the piston follower/ retainer plate, but that appears to be the only damage
I straightened it up, took some fine wet & dry and cleaned the sleeves. I think they are passable. I may poor man hone them, but don't want to do much.
The pistons, I am going to get the rust off and use a brass brush to clean them. See where we're at then, but I'm planning on reassembly.

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Posted May 11, 2015 - 06:35 AM

Cool, that it's going to be that easy of a fix. No new parts needed.

So, if that follower plate isn't bang on straight, what would be the

consequences? A bit of loss of power, and free rolling in neutral?


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Posted May 11, 2015 - 06:44 AM

Another Sears, sounds good, is that where they put the filter or did somebody add that on?
The cooler is for the Hydro also?
Looks like they use the engine cooling fan to draw air through it.

That's the filter location.
In cold weather, it would help keep some "important parts" warmer. May have to build a tin shield for summer.
Yes, hydro cooler... has air duct for engine air cooling.
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Posted May 11, 2015 - 06:52 AM

That rear end looks to be a Dana, just like the one in my Toro (which I have a spare). Sorry about the finger, I know the feelings. Glad you found the problem and can get it to work hopefully.


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Posted May 11, 2015 - 11:35 AM

Since only one wheel has a brake, and you evidently rolled it onto a trailer, the brake isn't the issue. May be the rear final drive is bad.  Is the rear a 2 speed unit?


Didnt roll it, kinda lifted while the boy ran the winch

The rear end is a single speed, the the swash plate looks like its infinite.
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Posted May 11, 2015 - 01:52 PM

Cool, that it's going to be that easy of a fix. No new parts needed.
So, if that follower plate isn't bang on straight, what would be the
consequences? A bit of loss of power, and free rolling in neutral?

I'm hoping that its close enough that neither happens. I suppose there could be some free wheeling if Bad enough, but the brake is good.
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Posted May 11, 2015 - 02:00 PM

Looks like you'll be up and running tonight then? :thumbs: :smilewink:


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Posted May 11, 2015 - 03:44 PM

Definitely ready for plow day!!   :poke:    :smilewink:


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Posted May 11, 2015 - 04:00 PM

May have time...
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Posted May 11, 2015 - 04:53 PM

Definitely ready for plow day!!   :poke:    :smilewink:

 

 

May have time...

 

 

Oh good, I plan on being there in 2017 to see it. :poke:  :smilewink:

 

I've seen him work Tom. :(  If only he'd put down that texting device. :D


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Posted May 11, 2015 - 05:39 PM

The bent plate....the one the piston followers slip into...the thin plate with the holes?  If so, long as it lays reasonably flat it will be fine.  The wear plate looks good to me.  If you had a round brass brush you could chuck to a cordless drill, that would clean the barrels up most likely.  Or maybe some very fine emery along with some PB Blaster on a split dowel to dress them down a bit.

 I take it the pump section all looks fine?






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