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Can coil and points be added to 422400 opposed Briggs?


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Posted April 11, 2015 - 06:16 PM

Starter on the Caterpillar mysteriously works great again but now I'm getting weak to no spark. I get no offers from starter fluid even. I want to add points, condensor, and coil to it. I know it hasn't any points, just the crappy Briggs magneto I purchased a few years ago through Briggs. How can I retrofit this stuff to to 422400 Briggs? Has anyone?

Now, I don't want the big speeches about how Briggs designed it with the magneto and you need a new one or to clean up the current and it will run. I have had it with the magneto, which isn't a real magneto in my opinion. I just want the tractor to work.

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Posted April 11, 2015 - 06:35 PM

I would think you would have to change the crank..


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Posted April 11, 2015 - 06:38 PM

I would think you would have to change the crank..

 

:ditto:

 

Your crank would need the lobe to operate the push pin.

 

 

Since I'm an OEM guy I'll sit back and watch what others suggest....... :smilewink:


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Posted April 11, 2015 - 06:41 PM

Car coil, battery ignition.



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Posted April 11, 2015 - 09:28 PM

You probably already checked but did you eliminate all other problem's?

Wiring, grounds, key switch, safety switch's.



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Posted April 11, 2015 - 09:41 PM

Casey, check your key switch.

 

Then check any little safety switch modules.

 

Most of the time, those Briggs coils will last for years and when they do go, they do it right.  Usually they start cutting out when they get hot before they fail completely.

 

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Posted April 11, 2015 - 09:49 PM

I checked for spark one more time when the sun went down and found it has spark.....

This tractor is the Caterpillar Craftsman Gt18
Every wire on it has been replaced, every saftey switch eliminated, and every electrical component replaced.

I don't know what is causing this thing to not start but it is irritating me, and this aggrivation has been going on for years...

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Posted April 11, 2015 - 09:54 PM

Am I missing something don't Briggs have two coils and cylinders fire at different times?



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Posted April 11, 2015 - 10:06 PM

I would be sure you have good compression.



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Posted April 11, 2015 - 10:08 PM

Even with a weak spark and starter fluid(dont use that stuff)It should hit if it has compression..



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Posted April 11, 2015 - 10:10 PM

I would think you have a valve/timing issue..that could cause both your problems(dragging stater and no/low compression)



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Posted April 11, 2015 - 10:21 PM

Starter on the Caterpillar mysteriously works great again but now I'm getting weak to no spark. I get no offers from starter fluid even. I want to add points, condensor, and coil to it. I know it hasn't any points, just the crappy Briggs magneto I purchased a few years ago through Briggs. How can I retrofit this stuff to to 422400 Briggs? Has anyone?

Now, I don't want the big speeches about how Briggs designed it with the magneto and you need a new one or to clean up the current and it will run. I have had it with the magneto, which isn't a real magneto in my opinion. I just want the tractor to work.

 

If you pull the wire off the Magneto does it still have the same problem?



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Posted April 11, 2015 - 10:23 PM

Compression tested great last year or so ago, and I haven't messed with it since it last failed to start last year.... But still no kick with the starter fluid I hate using.
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Posted April 11, 2015 - 10:24 PM

If you pull the wire off the Magneto does it still have the same problem?


The ground wire has been pulled, still no go...

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Posted April 11, 2015 - 10:25 PM

The ground wire has been pulled, still no go...

 

So you have NO SPARK when the wire is disconnected?






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