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Need some help with a Gard'n Mast'r Jr. Flywheel pulley removal.


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#31 icecream4070 OFFLINE  

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Posted April 03, 2015 - 05:24 PM

So you were the one who bought it lol i was trying to buy it for a while
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Posted April 03, 2015 - 05:24 PM

You are moving right along and making great progress! :thumbs:

 

Keep up the good work and will be looking forward to the updates.

 

Also I have a set of 3 decals I bought when I got mine, They where the last set a collector at the time had. I just need to find a way I can have them made.


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Posted April 03, 2015 - 05:49 PM

The tractor is rough icecream, but it was worth picking up since I already had a clutch for it, and it was close to home, so that made it a no brainer.
I'll post more pics as I move along with it Chris, and you're welcome. Clickitandstickit can probably make the decals with a picture and dimensions. I plan on sending them this picture, and I can get the dimensions from the remnants of the decals that are on my hood.

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Posted April 04, 2015 - 06:32 AM



I finally figured out how to add a video to a post. It's not exactly the best video, but next time I'll hold the camera steady.

Edited by classic, April 04, 2015 - 06:40 AM.

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Posted April 05, 2015 - 07:09 AM

Very nice. Smooth, engine sound great. Noel
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Posted April 07, 2015 - 07:35 AM

Well,it's a good thing this tractor had leaky seals and grease all over the front rims, since the oil and grease acted like a preservative. I started scraping and cleaning the front rims in a parts washer, and started cleaning the gear oil and dirt off of the rear rims. I pulled the top cover off of the trans thinking that there might be water in it, but it was just full of thick brown gear oil. The transmission is tight and the gears and bearings are in great shape. I just have to clean it up and replace the top cover gasket and output shaft seal. I wiped off the outer axle bearing on the rear end and there is no water damage to the bearings and everything is tight. It's going to take some time to scrape and degrease the backplates, and I have a complete seal kit on the way for the rear end. I will also be relining the brake shoes before assembly. It's strange ordering gaskets and seals for a 1938 DeSoto transmission and rear end for use in a garden tractor.

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Posted May 16, 2015 - 09:57 PM

Well, you can hear a tick in the engine in the video, and I thought it was probably just a valve. The valve lash was actually a little tight and the valves were replaced at some point. I tore the engine down and the crankshaft rod journal was worn beyond reject specs and would need to be turned down. The wrist pin was sloppy in the piston, so that was the noise I was hearing. The cam lobes are heavily worn also, so the engine is getting a complete overhaul. I located an NOS crankshaft and I already had a new rod and .020 piston to use during the rebuild. I sandblasted the bare block today and I'll be honing it to .020, installing valve guide inserts, and grinding the valve seats. I still have to buy the rest of the parts for the rebuild, but this is where I'm at so far.

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Posted May 24, 2015 - 08:17 PM

I spent some more time working on the tractor. All of the parts to reassemble the rear end arrived, so I'm busy prepping everything. I blasted, washed down, then primed the rear end housing. I removed the old brake shoe linings and blasted, washed, primed, and painted the shoes. I also filed the cam surfaces flat on the shoes so that the brakes work smoothly. I'll be riveting the new brake linings on the shoes once I get the rivet tool. I'm still waiting on some engine parts and a thrust washer for the transmission to arrive. Everything internally in the engine was completely worn out, so I'll be completely rebuilding it. Eventually I'll put together one post with all of the restoration details combined.

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Posted June 01, 2015 - 10:19 AM

From my research Gard'n Mast'r Tractors where painted with what ever they had on hand, and sometimes the person building the tractor would mix a custom batch. That is also why the decals are in diferent locations.

That's very interesting. The original color on my model JB is red, under several layers of other colors. I'm enjoying this thread because I will have to go through my tractor just as you are doing. I was interested in the clutch info because I thought I had a Dodge clutch but now I am not so sure. I will check it out today. My brakes are the driveshaft style instead of the drum brakes.

Nice work on the pictures.


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Posted June 01, 2015 - 11:13 AM

I read about a Gard'n Mast'r that was originally painted red, so I'm guessing that it was yours. I wish that there was more info on these tractors and I think I found just about everything that there is about them on the internet. It seems like there is only a small number of people involved with them, so researching is a bit tough. It's interesting that yours uses the transmission brake instead of the drum brakes. Are the brakes foot or hand operated? I'm documenting this restoration for future reference by others like yourself, and I'm sure some people like to see an old machine like this restored step by step. Myself, I like to see documented restorations and see the progress.
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Posted June 01, 2015 - 12:17 PM

I read about a Gard'n Mast'r that was originally painted red, so I'm guessing that it was yours. I wish that there was more info on these tractors and I think I found just about everything that there is about them on the internet. It seems like there is only a small number of people involved with them, so researching is a bit tough. It's interesting that yours uses the transmission brake instead of the drum brakes. Are the brakes foot or hand operated? I'm documenting this restoration for future reference by others like yourself, and I'm sure some people like to see an old machine like this restored step by step. Myself, I like to see documented restorations and see the progress.

His sounds like mine? the larger Gard'n Mast'r. Mine only has the hand brake that works off the drive shaft.

 

Nice progress so far! Keep up the great work! And I'll be looking forward to future updates! :thumbs: :dancingbanana:


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Posted June 01, 2015 - 01:10 PM

Chris, I have seen the hand brake operated transmission band brake on the bigger G Mast'r,and was wondering if it was something that was optional on the Jr.'s. My real interest is with the bigger G Mast'r, but this Jr. showed up locally and it's been a fun restoration so far.
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Posted June 03, 2015 - 09:24 PM

I read about a Gard'n Mast'r that was originally painted red, so I'm guessing that it was yours. I wish that there was more info on these tractors and I think I found just about everything that there is about them on the internet. It seems like there is only a small number of people involved with them, so researching is a bit tough. It's interesting that yours uses the transmission brake instead of the drum brakes. Are the brakes foot or hand operated? I'm documenting this restoration for future reference by others like yourself, and I'm sure some people like to see an old machine like this restored step by step. Myself, I like to see documented restorations and see the progress.

It's operated by hand and clamps a band around the driveshaft. I remember some old Chrysler built autos that had a emergency brake that clamped the driveshaft.

Whenever I go to a show I look for old paper on Gardenalls. Never find much though. Did you ever see the model called the "mailbox" model? Kinda cute.



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Posted June 04, 2015 - 03:33 PM

Yup, I've seen some pics of the "mail box model". These old tractors are interesting for sure. The transmission in my G Master Jr. does not have the threaded boss cast into the housing like you see on other Mopar transmissions of the era. The boss is on the lower right rear of the transmission and you see these transmissions in the G Master Sr. tractor since it has the transmission brake. Does your transmission have the boss on it as seen in this pic? You can see the boss just to the right of the oily speedometer cable.

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Posted June 22, 2015 - 08:32 PM

Here are a couple of pics I took tonight of the transmission on the JB.

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