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317 cuts out when pto engaged. Trouble shooting.


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#1 Alberta Bolens ONLINE  

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Posted March 30, 2015 - 09:29 PM

HI.

Brought the 317 out to get ready for spring.  New battrey starts and runs great.  Then when I engage the PTO it shuts the engine down. I have tested and checked few things out  with no luck.  I'm scratching my noggin and looking for trouble shooting ideas.

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Checked safety switch in the seat with ohm meter and it works.

Off the seat  switch is open

On the seat switch is closed

Tried the pto with safety switch disengaged. Shuts down

Jumped the safety switch. Shuts down.

when the engine is off, key on i hear the elec clutch engage.

 

I'm thinking

Bad pto switch.

Wire grounding 

 

Any body run across this before or have any ideas.  Does anyone have electrical schematic for 317?

 

Thanks for any help you have.

 

 

 


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Posted March 30, 2015 - 09:35 PM

Bad PTO is my first thought but not positive.  Have you tested resistance of the PTO coil?  Could be too tight too.  Have you checked the gap on the clutch?


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Posted March 30, 2015 - 09:59 PM

I would check out the PTO switch, bet it's bad. Good Luck!!


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Posted March 30, 2015 - 10:07 PM

download from the manual section

troubleshooting eletric clutches

it helped me with one I had

 

http://gardentractor...ctric-clutches/


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Posted March 30, 2015 - 10:27 PM

I'm voting PTO switch.  If I remember right, that is all that is in the circuit beyond the seat switch? 

 

Ben W.


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Posted March 30, 2015 - 10:49 PM

I just went out, took the switch out WD40 the connections etc.  Same result.  I unplugged the PTO same result.   Then I sat my lard ass on the seat. :wallbanging:  Flipped the switch and it stayed running.  I plugged the PTO back in sat on the seat again and it works.  Before I took the switch out i was on the seat and was checking that switch.  Seems cleaning the connections on the switch seems to have fixed the issue for now.  It does look like the is a worn spot on the clutch lead.  I will have a better look at it tomorrow night make sure its not grounding.  

 

I hope cleaning the switch has it.   Time will tell.  thanks for your suggestions.


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Posted March 31, 2015 - 06:37 AM

Those PTO switches are a known issue with the 314 and 317. I have taken them apart and cleaned them, although you need to make sure you have a clean place to work and lots of light because there are a lot of springs and parts in those switches.Sometimes you can fix a bad connection at the rivets on the back of the switch by cleaning it really good and soldering the rivet head to the terminal. I think a new switch is still available form JD  but is maybe 30$.


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Posted May 10, 2015 - 09:13 PM

Sold this tractor couple weeks ago.  It really nice unit I was tempted to keep it.  I made good $$ so let it go.






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