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#1 classic ONLINE  

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Posted March 25, 2015 - 07:20 PM

I took a road trip to look at a 67 Simplicity 2012. I've been on the hunt for a hydrolift and this tractor had one, but the price was 750.00. I noticed that the price came down to 550.00, so I called about it. It had a nice original pair of headlights and the light bar, but someone else ended up with them.
Anyway,the tractor was a bit of a mess, but the hydrolift functions fine, and the hi-low now works after I tightened the pulley set screw. The original engine sounds great and doesn't burn oil, but it needs a governor spring and the carb fiddled with.The frame was cracked and repaired by the BGB and the steering needs a going over. It had a bracket under the engine I didn't recognize and also had rear wheel spacers that I didn't recognize. I did a search on the way home, and it turns out that the bracket is for a loader bucket and the spacers were to be used with the loader so that the tires clear the frame.
The tractor had a dual muffler stack that looked like one of the bird houses that the DEC puts up, HA! The top muffler was a nice condition Nelson muffler that I need for my B1. Luckily the Nelson was just slid in a pipe and braized. I heated it up and the muffler slid right out. I still have to clean it up a bit, but now the B1 will be complete. The mower shop called and they installed the valve guide and cut the valve seats in the B1 block. I'll be picking it up tomorrow so I can get the engine back together. I'll be doing a full resto on the 2012 at some point. I paid 400.00 for it only because of the options it came with, and I already have a bunch of parts to work with during the restoration. I will be replacing the repaired cracked frame with a nice one, also.

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Posted March 25, 2015 - 07:48 PM

Great find,

I wonder if it ever had a loader on it? If it did could that be what cracked the frame? If you get a chance maybe you could post a few more pictures of the tractor. It looks rally clean and original.

 

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Posted March 25, 2015 - 08:01 PM

I'm sure this machine had a loader on it in the past. There are wear marks on the bracket and the spacers look like they have been on it for a long time. The tractor is one of those pretty looking from a distance, spray paint over rust machines. It was definitely worked hard in it's life. The BGB has about 3/8" of play and will need bearings and seals, but I have a replacement that is ready to use. The tranny shifts fine and the rear axle tube and axle seem pretty good. The transaxle will need seals, though. Here are a few more pics.

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Posted March 25, 2015 - 08:05 PM

I'll be looking for a dog bone tread front tire to match this one on the front. I like the look of this Big front tires that came on the 2012 model.

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Posted March 25, 2015 - 08:16 PM

   How do you find these things ??  Nice score on the hydro lit and the hi lo assy.  I have a hydro lift here in a drawer I saved of a tractor awhile ago but I have not yet found a hi-low assy I could get my hands on.  Have you checked summit for the tires, I got a set of fronts for dads allis from them for cheap.

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Posted March 25, 2015 - 08:25 PM

Pete, that tractor was on Craigslist for a while, but the price was too high, so I didn't bother. When the price came down, I decided to call since I really wanted that hydrolift, and they seem to be real expensive just by themselves. It turned out to be a pretty good deal at what I paid.
I would like to find an original tire for the front if I could. They do make new dog bone tread tires and I found some online if I have to go that route.

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Posted March 25, 2015 - 08:44 PM

I would be interested in the spacers if you part with them.Got a loader tractor like to use them on...

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Posted March 25, 2015 - 08:57 PM

I'm hoping to come across a loader attachment at some point down the road. From what I've been reading, the spacers and bracket are missing when a loader attachment turns up sometimes. I'm pretty much hanging on to the Simplicity/Allis parts that I pick up, since I plan on restoring some and using some around the place. If I do end up parting with the spacers, you'll be the first to know KillerAC.

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Posted March 26, 2015 - 05:38 AM

The cracked and welded frame is common around here. Atleast 3 of my early AC/Simplicitys have them. I was told that it was from the early snow plow that didn't have springs. I hope to just grind them down to invisible when doing restorations on them. That is a nice GT. I have a similar 3012. Good Luck, Rick


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Posted March 26, 2015 - 08:13 AM

I've heard others talk about cracked frames from the rigid plows on the A/C, Simplicity, and Sears Suburbans. I won't put a rigid plow on anything unless I'm pushing cotton balls across an ice skating rink! I haven't had any experience with the 3012 series tractors. They are a little longer than the older Landlords, right?

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Posted March 26, 2015 - 08:25 AM

Nice grab! You got your 500 in the hilo and hydrolift. The loader parts are a bonus, as is the nelson.

I find the plows take their toll on the front axle, but will beat the frame at the bgb and axle tube when someone starts adding weight to the rear. Pushing while allowing wheelspin is a savior for the frame and axle, but everyone thinks they need 300lbs on the back to push. I ran no weight for uslyears and never had to wait for spring to get out of my driveway =) ....but I did snap my first axle when I got "cool" and added a bunch of weight.

I have fixed a few frames on show tractors, but like to do so on the inside where the evidence is hidden.
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Posted March 26, 2015 - 08:32 AM

Many years ago I was given the 3012 "parts machine" when I bought 4 attachments (mower, spring plow, earthcavator, and revitalizer). The old gentleman had a 3012 with a FEL on it and was cleanning up his yard. I think that he planned to move into a retirement facility. The 3012 w/ FEL was going to a son. I think that he said it was longer than my ac B-10. It is still a basket case waiting for me to restore it. Good Luck, Rick


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