Looks like the Kubota wins! I did up the paperwork, zero % interest rate kicked it over the top. Got approved through Kubota finance so I'm good to go. Went to pick it up, but nooooooooo.... LOL, problems. Not a bad problem to have though. The salesman cleaned up the one on the lot we had been discussing and told me it did not look good enough to him, so he ordered a new one from the warehouse. It arrived friday and will be set up to my specs, turf tires, loader and 50" tiller. Pretty darn nice of the guy to make sure I get one spankin new, no scratches and paint not faded yet. He's going to be out of town a couple days, I told him no hurry, don't need it quite yet so I will pick it up on Thursday. Pics will follow, if I don't get too excited when I get it home and start playing.... er.... working 'er.