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#1 Oldford OFFLINE  

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Posted February 23, 2015 - 11:13 AM

K241 was running fine, popped a couple times then quit.  Trying to crank it over noticed a phillips-head screw shooting in and out of the block, bouncing off the governor arm.  It has a copper washer under it and threads up near the head, like a carb jet.  It starts screwing back into the block then stops.  Can i get this back into place without major disassembly of the engine?  like rolling the motor over a little at a time, or did something fall apart inside?  Here is a pic

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Posted February 23, 2015 - 11:32 AM

That is related to the governor.  The Kohler service manual will give the details on how to fix it. 


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Posted February 23, 2015 - 11:32 AM

You may have the governor coming apart inside.


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Posted February 23, 2015 - 11:42 AM

"Some dis-assembly required". :wallbanging:


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Posted February 23, 2015 - 12:41 PM

"Some dis-assembly required". :wallbanging:

 

Yeah, me thinks so...  


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Posted February 23, 2015 - 01:05 PM

I read through the governor section of the Kohler manual, it didn't say anything about the screw going into the block.  Anybody know what it is called, or what it does?  thanks for the help


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Posted February 23, 2015 - 01:10 PM

I have three K301 blocks sitting in the garage and a master rebuild kit going in one of them.  Will check it out for you when I get home.


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Posted February 23, 2015 - 01:11 PM

Oldford , I hate to tell you this , but that is part of the governor setup . That screw is about 2 1/2 inches long and is actually a shaft that runs thru the side of the block and the governor gear is held in place by it

 . Your governor gear is probably sitting in the bottom of the oil pan , if it survived the trip down .


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Posted February 23, 2015 - 01:15 PM

That's what I was thinking! Been a while since I was into one of those. Mine didn't survive!


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Posted February 23, 2015 - 03:28 PM

Last question on this, would it be possible to fish it up through that tin cover to the right of the points cover, or does the engine have to come out, oil pan off, etc?


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Posted February 23, 2015 - 03:36 PM

Cam has to come out to get that gear out of the engine and reassemble so just pull the engine and be done with it.


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Posted February 23, 2015 - 03:41 PM

Cam has to come out to get that gear out of the engine and reassemble so just pull the engine and be done with it.

What he said. It has to come apart. That governor can get wedged in between the cam and block and break things!


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Posted February 23, 2015 - 05:55 PM

Guy's doesn't that just hold the gears back on gov?  Seems if you can push the slot in gear that it rides in back in place, the screw will go into slot and pilot hole and work?  Seems like I did that on one, but can't recall for sure. Might be best to pull the pan and look and see what is going on, to be safe.


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Posted February 23, 2015 - 06:27 PM

Here's a Kohler K181 I just picked up. It has that same Phillips screw by the governor linkage, and here's a pick of where the governor is above the cam. Not sure if this will help any.

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Posted February 23, 2015 - 06:46 PM

You can't see much of the governor from there!

I would see if the screw will go back into place, but pull the pan to see if any pieces are in it, at least! I had one come loose and went between a lobe and the block. Had a nice crack to seal back up!


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