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#1 speed005 OFFLINE  

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Posted February 08, 2015 - 09:10 PM

someone has already made a wood splitter, to go to the front of a mf-10/12 ??
 
john deere makes it an, JD 4
like this:
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I would like to do for my mf-10
 
an log splitter in the back is a good idea to, but there was a hydraulic issue
 
show me your log splitter, and give me your ideas
 
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Posted February 08, 2015 - 09:55 PM

If you want it to be an attachment, it would be easier on the front as that is where the pto is... Behind and you'd have to run longer hoses.
I suppose you could mount a pump and run hoses to quick-connects at the rear and pull the splitter like a trailer.

If you put it all up front, may I suggest you build it so the main beam can be turned vertically for transport and only moved to horizontal for use.

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Posted February 09, 2015 - 12:46 PM

My first idea was to put the log back with a hydrolic unit forward
 
like this:
log splitter back.jpg
 
searching I found the john deere model, but it is off for transport
 
log splitter front#1.jpg
log splitter front#2.jpg
 
you have a exelente idea to put a vertical for transport

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Posted February 09, 2015 - 02:24 PM

My first idea was to put the log back with a hydrolic unit forward
 
like this:
attachicon.giflog splitter back.jpg
 
searching I found the john deere model, but it is off for transport
 
attachicon.giflog splitter front#1.jpg
attachicon.giflog splitter front#2.jpg
 
you have a exelente idea to put a vertical for transport


Just need to watch for low hanging branches. :D

You might want to try to find a deluxe muffler for it, help keep the noise down some while using the splitter.
Also, I would try to find some way to make the belt to the pump engage / loosen with the attachment pedal. Maybe something like the snow thrower tightener?

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Posted February 09, 2015 - 06:29 PM

yes, I would love to find me a deluxe muffler, but it's almost not found, I believe
I have already found on gtt, who make it one
 
you have the same ideas as me, for the engagement of the belt
if not a little arm that engages the belt, but I like better as a snow thrower system


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Posted February 09, 2015 - 06:35 PM

my gt is an 10, for 10hp i think, therefore this pump is good for me

http://www.princessa...ump/A-p8477978e

 

small hydrolic oil tank

http://www.princessa...oir/A-p8317216e

 

control valve

http://www.princessa...off/A-p8382665e

 

I'm not sure of the size of the cylinder to use???

3.5in

http://www.princessa...der/A-p1200248e

4in

http://www.princessa...der/A-p8401119e

4.5in

http://www.princessa...der/A-p8401127e


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Posted February 10, 2015 - 04:39 AM

That style of splitter will weigh upwards of 180 lb, plus the reservoir and the valve set. I wouldn't recommend carrying it on the rear. Front axles are cheaper to repair or replace, and I just happen to know that the front axle will carry that weight. I used to have a FEL on a MF12H and broke a rear axle trumpet with 175 lb of counterweight when I hit a bump at speed. 

 

The splitter that I built for my MF1655 used a 3.5" x 20" cylinder powered from the FEL pump set for 1500 psi max. It's slow, but it split 95% of the maple and birch that went in it. Your system will have twice the pressure and force. How long are your blocks? You rarely need full stroke to split a block, but it is sometimes necessary when birch is still green.

 

My MF1655 with the splitter on the 3PH. The valve is on the tractor and the loader posts are the reservoirs.

 

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Posted February 10, 2015 - 07:55 AM

yes, I would love to find me a deluxe muffler, but it's almost not found, I believe
I have already found on gtt, who make it one
 
you have the same ideas as me, for the engagement of the belt
if not a little arm that engages the belt, but I like better as a snow thrower system


The one guy I knew who was making them in Stainless Steel has kind of dropped out of doing them. He may still do them, but he does so on a special order business if he does.

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Posted February 10, 2015 - 08:14 AM

I managed to get one from him. Very nice job he does.

 

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Posted February 19, 2015 - 07:34 AM

your deluxe muffler look pretty good


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Posted February 19, 2015 - 07:54 AM

i am at this stage

 

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I dont know yet how I will fix the log splitter to the bumper of the tractor



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Posted February 20, 2015 - 07:34 AM

Your splitter is going to be close to 200 lb. Attach it with that weight in mind.

 

Balance is going to be something needing consideration as well. Remember, there is also the weight of the block to be split that will have an effect on twisting the tractor's frame in the long run. One block, no problem. A thousand blocks . . .


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Posted February 20, 2015 - 12:39 PM

Tudor brings up a point.
You might need a couple of legs to put down while in use.

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Posted February 21, 2015 - 12:26 AM

yes, i will add a leg, like john deere have

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i think, i will take, the smaller one cylinder (3.5) and will result less force of split, but i will take a smaller H beam, it will be lighter


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Posted February 21, 2015 - 07:34 AM

yes, i will add a leg, like john deere have

attachicon.gif133995.jpg

 

i think, i will take, the smaller one cylinder (3.5) and will result less force of split, but i will take a smaller H beam, it will be lighter

A 3.5" cylinder at 3000 psi will exert almost 29,000 lb (14.5 tons) of force. If you use a beam that is too light, it will bend like a bow. The problem with that is that steel is extremely elastic up to a point. When the block breaks under that kind of force, the beam will either spring back to its original shape and throw the split wood off or take a permanent set in the bent form.

 

That's something to think about. My splitter uses the same size of cylinder with half the pressure on a 6" wide flange beam and splits 95% of the wood that I put in it, so I don't really see a major problem unless you try to split large diameter blocks in half. 

 

The beam I used is a 6x6 at 15 lb per foot.. I wouldn't recommend anything lighter than a 6x4 at 9 lb per foot, and that's a shaky prospect.

 

A beam chart.


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